Ponder's Day of Reckoning

[Masters]

Originally Posted by Alo

Hey Masters, that's what a franchise QB looks like. Try to pick apart that game

That was a great game by Luck and what I expect to see out of a potential franchise QB, as oppossed to his more recent performances. Ponder and Locker are not looking the part lately.

[Alo]

Originally Posted by Crow

so alo is he a 1st or 8th rounder

Probably a first and a half rounder.

Coming into the season, I thought Foles was too inaccurate to be a Holmgren guy, but Arizona's new QB coach has tweaked his footwork, resulting in much better accuracy. He still isn't a very mobile guy, but he's got a nice arm.

If he declares, I could see him being selected by Minnesota in the mid to late 1st. He'd probably push Ponder's stock down a little bit, which would be good if the Browns want him in the 2nd (in my mock, I have Ponder going to the Chiefs at #42).

[Alo]

Originally Posted by Masters

That was a great game by Luck and what I expect to see out of a potential franchise QB, as oppossed to his more recent performances. Ponder and Locker are not looking the part lately.

Well, that's probably the strongest praise I could expect from you

Luck does need to build upon this strong performance -- the Arizona, Cal, and Oregon State games will be nice tests for him -- but he's definitely looking like the top guy in the class.

[Shep]

I think Luck and Locker go 1-2 in some order. Then you get to Mallett and Ponder. I think Ponder will be a really good WCO QB and Mallett doesn't fit that kind of scheme at all.

I really have to watch Foles more. Haven't seen him once this year.

Tough to imagine us not getting one of those guys or Kolb. Delhomme should be announcing by next year.

[Masters]

Originally Posted by Alo

Well, that's probably the strongest praise I could expect from you

Luck does need to build upon this strong performance -- the Arizona, Cal, and Oregon State games will be nice tests for him -- but he's definitely looking like the top guy in the class.

Maybe I ask to much But if guys are going to get crowned they need to show it imo. This game was very much what I'd expect to see from a guy being highly talked about. He showed up big in a big sport like a frachise QB should. Like you noted, he needs to follow it up agaisnt ARZ, Cal, and ORE.

I am just a believer that it's a body of work. Last year you had people ready to put Locker as the #1 pick if he came out, and so far he's hardly looked that part.

[Alo]

For anyone who missed it:

YouTube - Stanford vs. USC-Andrew Luck Lays out Shareece Wright.mov

[DaBrowns41]

Right now I have Foles well ahead of Ponder. Foles could be a Matt Schaub type of guy. He gets drafted in the 2nd round and doesn't start for a few years. Finally gets an opportunity and runs with it.

Ponder is the equivalent of Alex Smith, IMO, in terms of production (not style of play, just I think Ponder will have good games, but more often bad games in the NFL).

[Vegasdogg]

Nice tackle.

[Tobalaz]

Originally Posted by Alo

For anyone who missed it:

YouTube - Stanford vs. USC-Andrew Luck Lays out Shareece Wright.mov

I'm all for drafting Luck.
That sold it for me.
If he busts at qb, we can move him back next to Ward as the other safety and he can qb our D for us.
We could have the single most feared secondary in the league!
Bad Luck and Trauma Ward!

[Alo]

Ponder's having a pretty bad day, throwing picks and chucking floaters outside the numbers. He isn't at all looking like a 1st round QB; at this point, I'm beginning to wonder whether he'll slide out of the 2nd round.

[YtownBacker]

Ponder and Luck both look like they could use another year of college to me. They just don't seem to be ready to take that next step yet. Mallet is a fringe guy to me but I haven't seen Locker enough to have a solid opinion.

It's early in the year and I guess there could be some growth during the year to push these guys over the top.

This could either be a great class or a very scary class if you are looking for a QB.

If I had to pick know I would offer Philly my 1st and a 3rd next year plus a fringe player and take Kolb.

I wish I was sold on any one of them.

[Alo]

To me, there's a big difference between Luck and Ponder, who's looking like a 3rd round QB.