Could Tressel take over as Colt coach?

[Neo]

With the terrible season they are having this year I could see them drafting Luck, then firing Jim Caldwell and hiring Tressel as the Head Coach.The losing record would justify firing Caldwell. Thoughts?

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

He could, and if he does, I will hate Mike Holmgren & Randy Lerner to the very depths of my soul. The only team that Jim Tressel should be leading out of the gutter are his beloved Cleveland Browns.

[Riffer X]

Shit, Caldwell is going to get a raise for what he is doing this year. He's giving them exactly what they want.

[King of Kings]

I'd laugh my ass off if drunk ass Irsay made Sweatervest the HC.

[Jax Dawg]

I thought this was a ridiculous idea at first but after thinking about it the Sweatervest did start out as a QB coach so he can coach up Luck for the next three years while Peyton Manning continues to run his own offense. If nothing else he can't do any worse than Caldwell has done this year.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by Jax Dawg

he can coach up

See that's just it, he can coach up HS players into College spread QB's but it ends there. Tressel has never Coached up an NFL caliber QB in his entire College career.

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

See that's just it, he can coach up HS players into College spread QB's but it ends there. Tressel has never Coached up an NFL caliber QB in his entire College career.

Troymont

As a Bucks fan, he coached the shit out of that kid. Troy was recruited as an athlete and Justin Zwick was the white savior in the same class. Smith used to throw the ball so hard it made DA look like a softball pitcher. He came a long way under Tressell and did QB in the league, at one time beating out Flccofseagulls for the starting job until he got deathly sick.

We will see with Pryor, but I doubt he amounts to much. He didn't develop enough under JT but he didn't have the acumen plus he was spoiled by everybody--including JT.

[King of Kings]

Lucky Charms Smith made it to career backup with a couple of starts on bad teams, you just made my point for me Riff.

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

Lucky Charms Smith made it to career backup with a couple of starts on bad teams, you just made my point for me Riff.

How so? He took a kid that wasn't even recruited as a QB and made him an NFL QB and Heisman winner. You can bow down now

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

How so? He took a kid that wasn't even recruited as a QB and made him an NFL QB and Heisman winner. You can bow down now

Oh, and Krenzel somehow managed to start a Monday Night game for the Bears. That dude couldn't throw for anything when he first got there.

[King of Kings]

So basically because Krezel started one game in his 12 month career and Troy Smith became a backup for a few years in the NFL who blew in San Fran that qualifies Sweatervest to be an NFL HC and mentor to Andrew Luck? I didn't think it did and the point still stands, as much as the hardcore homers overrated Tressel's ability he isn't a guy capable of coaching up nor creating NFL caliber QB's(I could care less about the joke that is the Heisman). Sorry, just because you go into the NFL and "stick" as a backup for a year or few years doesn't make you an NFL QB. The criteria is a BIT higher than that bro. Unless we're going to credit the Pat White's and Max Hall's of the world as "NFL caliber QB's" now.

Just because Craig Krenzel took an NFL snap and Smith played himself into the UFL doesn't make Tressel some QB guy. I honestly don't get it anyways, Bucks fans have been trying to tag him as a QB guru for years when they could instead concentrate on his ability to create badass defensive players or WR's, skills rivaled by very few in the College ranks.

[Riffer X]

Not sure who all these people are who say that Jimmy T is some sort of QB guru, all I had to say was he did develop NFL QB's from nothing. A better argument on your part would be that he didn't recruit NFL type QB's, not that he couldn't develop them. Jimmy T was a QB himself at big old Baldwin Wallace, BTW.

The best guy to suit your side of the debate without going all "OSU homer fags" is to bring up the fairly epic failure that was Zwick. He never developed, which is the main reason Troymont got the position and ran with it.

To another point, Jimmy T did not surround himself with great coaches for the most part. Jim Bollman (OC and OL) has been panned for years there. He is from my hometown of Ashtabula like Urban BTW. I think Meyer will be better at developing pro QB's when all is said and done.