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    Default The $11M Brendan Haywood Contract Trade to come

    Looks like our best bets for a trade unloading Brendan Haywood's $11M contract involve teams desperately looking to free up cap space for free agents now & in the big 2016 class, including Kevin Durant & potentially a lot of players who will be opting out of their contracts & looking to cash in on the mega load of new cap money available in the league... every team is expected to have another $20M per season for salaries.... that's like another star added to every team. So "Big 3s" will now soon become "Big 4s" as teams of 4 superstar players will be able to get together & make it work financially.

    Anyway, the Houston Rockets are looking like the best bet... if we can get 29 yr old 6'8" SF Trevor Ariza and 37 yr old 6'3" PG/SG Jason Terry from them. These are guys they should be looking to let go of as younger replacements are stepping in and their salaries can combine to better suit the team towards a top free agent addition.

    Another extremely bold possibility would be straight up for Mavericks' PG Rajon Rondo who makes $12.9M. Rondo wore out his welcome in BOS & DAL now and certainly wouldn't like coming off the bench behind Kyrie. Kyrie would instead become the starting SG & we'd be learning new offense as LBJ & Kyrie would make off-ball cuts to the basket with Rondo feeding them. This wouldn't work out so well... at least at first.

    It would be great to swing a 3 team trade and get in on Orlando's SF Tobias Harris who only makes $2.3M. Harris is young, lengthy & shoots a nice 3. He's young, like 23, and ORL seems ready to part with him. We'd need a 3rd trade partner because of the disparage in salaries from Tobias's $2.3m to Haywood's $11m.

    If we traded with the Lakers --who will be keen on freeing cap space-- we'd have to probably take 6'3" PG Jeremy Lin's $8.3 salary, but it might be worth it because he only has a year left on his deal and the Lakers actually have some young players that are interesting that we may be able to get our hands on also to fill out the deal. For instance, 6'7" SF Wesley Johnson was the #4 pick in the draft out of Syracuse in 2010; he'd be fine to spell LeBron off the bench. Ed Davis, 4 years removed from a lottery pick out of UNC, is a 6'10" guy underutilized because he plays PF like LA's top pick last season, Julius Randle. We may not be able to get Ed Davis from them, but 6'5" PG Jordan Clarkson would make a great backup PG; Clarkson is coming off a surprisingly productive rookie season for the Lakers. If we had to fall back on another option to complete the deal, 6'4" SG Wayne Ellington, out of UNC, is a decent 3-point shooter. A trade with the Lakers would prove lucrative.

    Options kinda go downhill from here.

    One very intriguing scenario would be the LA Clippers, if they decided they were hot to add a big free agent. They just added SG Lance Stephenson & now there's a logjam of shooters including JJ Redick, Austin Rivers, and CJ Wilcox. I think Coach Doc Rivers could decide it would be much better for his son, Austin's, career if he were traded to CLE and had the chance to start at SG between LeBron & Kyrie, or at worst lead the second offense as PG & spot up a ton of 3's as SG off the bench, instead. That would seem to be a hell of a lot better for Austin Rivers' career than wasting away on the bench behind Lance Stephenson & JJ Redick. I still like lengthy SF Hedo Turkoglu & think he could be the answer in 2016 to spell LeBron off the bench for 8-10 minutes a game, like LBJ desperately needs to lengthen the quality of his career. Throw Turkoglu in to complete a trade with the Clippers IF DOC WANTS TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR HIS SON. To make the salaries work, we might need to include Orlando and receive Tobias Harris. That would be one hell of a decent deal for the Cavs; 2 young players on the rise in Rivers and Harris (plus Hedo Turkoglu). Some actually think LAC would part with JJ Redick! That would be NICE... think: a consistently hot JR - full-time!

    Another one I actually like is with MIN, where we take back goofball 6'8" PF Anthony Bennett, if only for his $5.5m salary. We'd do it, instead, for the other players coming along with him... hopefully surprise talent 6'6" SF Shabazz Muhammad, who's good at 3's, and 6'5" (supposed PG) Zach LaVine, who is athletic as heck, a supreme dunker, and a surprise 3-point shooter. LaVine would be a quick fan favorite like JR Smith, and he's only 20. Shabazz is 22 & improving his 3's nicely. And we'd have Anthony Bennett again, just in case he developed into a decent player; he actually shoots a decent 3-pt% and is improving. I don't think MIN would be that hard up to clear cap-space to do this deal with us, but it would be wise of an NBA star to take their talents to MIN over the next few years while they've stockpiled great young talent with PG Ricky Rubio, SG Andrew Wiggins and now Karl-Anthony Towns. If MIN gets some confidence that they can draw a good free agent, they may be willing to clear the cap-space necessary with a deal like this with CLE. And, silly as it may sound, there's still a fair chance that Anthony Bennett makes it in the league & is a good contributing piece in a few years time, he's still just 21 & has raw skills & athleticism. I wouldn't mind taking him back on the cheap.

    I think a trade with the Rockets or Lakers makes the most sense for the parties involved. Houston's ready to unload Ariza & Jason Terry, and the Lakers are looking for someone to take PG Jeremy Lin - and we should if we can get a couple players like Ed Davis, Jordan Clarkson, Wesley Johnson, or Wayne Ellington. We can exchange Lin for 2017 with a star Free Agent with the salary cap hike to come that off-season.

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    Rajon Rondo - no thanks EVER
    JJ Redick - would be ok... but his D poor at best
    Trevor Ariza - takes poor shots.. LBJ approve of him ?
    Jeremy Lin - Unrestricted so no trade ... would like him
    not too interested in the others

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmadworld View Post
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    Rajon Rondo - no thanks EVER
    JJ Redick - would be ok... but his D poor at best
    Trevor Ariza - takes poor shots.. LBJ approve of him ?
    Jeremy Lin - Unrestricted so no trade ... would like him
    not too interested in the others

    NBA never so weak with players... who don't know how to play the game due to so many players being 1 and done. see the 70s 80s even 90s
    I totally agree with your last remark, but mostly it's the non-playoff teams that are so poor & filled with these young players struggling with the professional game. The playoff teams are for the most part good teams that would compete well with any era, I think (aside from the bottom 2 seeds in the East.)

    I agree with no Rondo - Ever.
    And Ariza isn't the player he was 4-5 years ago... maybe not a good use of $8.5 in salary.

    Redick led the NBA in 1st Quarter scoring & we could really use those hot starts when LeBron is always deferring on the offensive end to begin games. When a guy shoots like Redick, that more than makes up for B or B- level defense. He probably wouldn't get 30 mins/game, so his D won't hurt us... a shooter like him or Mike Dunleavy would be a boost - another shooter like JR would be awesome for the team. For that matter, bringing on Jeremy Lin on a reduced salary (more like $4M then the $8m he was making) would be okay, though he's the worst defender of all - it's HARD to find a worse defender than Lin.

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    Clippers' Redick and Turkoglu are looking really nice... they were #6 and #8 in 3pt % last season. Excellent scoring off the bench means LBJ can rest 10 mins per game! Mike Miller's also been effective for this purpose, historically...just not last season. Perhaps he bounces back.

    Also on our list should be the Knicks PG Jose Calderon, who NY just drafted PG Jerian Grant to replace him... #11 in 3pt % this season, #5 last season, and #1 back in 2013. He makes $7M/season, should be available, and would be an excellent PG off the bench, also insurance against Kyrie's injuries. So would young 6'5" PG who impressed for the Lakers, Jordan Clarkson... he shot 41% from 3 in his rookie season... not bad at all!

    Last PG to consider is aging Jason Terry... you can do a lot worse off the bench. He still scores the basketball, hits the 3... smart player.
    He's top 20 from 3, at 39%... Mo Williams was poor at 34%... even the awful Kelly Olynyk shot 35%!


    Hopefully David Griffin knows full well how important bringing in another capable PG is - we need insurance against Kyrie's history of injuries! Delly is good for a second policy - backup, secondary insurance, but it's best if we bring someone in. It would be foolish to count on Delly for a top 6 role, if necessary, in a 7 game playoff series again. That scenario for losing the Championship is the easiest to fix, so I expect it to be addressed.
    We can lose the Championship if LeBron goes down, we can lose it if Love goes down; we shouldn't lose it if Kyrie goes down. We can plan B for that. And we can plan B if Love goes down - so I expect those things to be done. But overpaying a few million for Shumpert and a few million for Tristan is NOT smart... No one else was going to give either of them those contracts!
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    Calderon's an underrated player. He could be had for a modest price too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Evil View Post
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    Calderon's an underrated player. He could be had for a modest price too.

    He ALMOST NEVER turns the ball over, too... which is huge.

    If you played on that Knicks team and were among the league lead in lowest turnover % ..... man that's good!

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    Another possible PG is the aging Jameer Nelson. He was good from 3 two seasons ago... last yr was an odd one with him playing on 3 different teams, ending up with DEN. He would do the job in the role we need filled...

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