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    OK, so we all know the starting rotation is mouth-watering (Carrasco's 1-hit 15K CG last night just punctuates that), even with Bauer still showing inconsistency and brilliance in alternating starts.

    I would love to keep Kluber, CC, Salazar & Bauer together, but considering the control we have over them and their relative ages, we could get a veeeeeeery good price for one of them.

    We desperately need a bat. I am sure we would all agree that the offense (especially situational hitting) has cost us a post season berth. You could even say calling up Lindor too late has cost us.

    We have a good young group to build around with that top third of Kipnis, Lindor and Brantley, but we need a 30+ HR 90+ RBI guy to really augment the lineup and make it more well-rounded.

    I would love to get that bat in free agency, but we have a strength (pitching) that is envied by many teams with many big bats.

    Might have to pull the trigger on a nice upgrade at third base (long overdue)

    Who's reasonably available?

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    +1 on your last question. Darn near the same spot we were in last year and we signed Brandon Moss???

    Need a thumper in the middle.
    2017 Draft: Garrett, Peppers, Njoku, Kizer, Ogunjobi, Collins (via trade of 103), Wilson, Johnson, Brantley, Gonzalez, Dayes
    2018 EXTRA Draft picks: a 1st (Texans), two in 2nd (Eagles & Texans), a 4th (Panthers/A.Lee), a 5th (Chiefs/Cam) - 12 total
    2019 EXTRA picks: 7th rnd (w/ Coates)
    Philly trade result: C. Coleman, Peppers, Kizer, Kessler, R. Louis, S. Coleman, Drango, Kindred, Payton, 2018 1st rndr (Texans) & 2018 2nd rndr (Eagles)

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    We need a 4 hitter and another solid RH bat...Santana sucks. I would package him with a starter for an established 4 hitter and maybe another young RH bat with potential.
    "The quarterback question lingers, but the Browns traded and traded and traded and traded and traded and acquired nine players and three high draft choices.

    It's tough to argue those results." Pat McManamon 5-3-16

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    Things are pretty much set for next season in the starting lineup except for a true bruiser in the 4-spot. I agree that Santana is done, and should've been awhile ago. I don't know what we can spend in FA right now though, or trade for.

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    http://www.letsgotribe.com/2015/8/7/...ries-contracts

    Projects $12M to spend in the offseason. Was written in early August.

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    I don't trust the Dolan's to spend it on the right guys let alone spend it period.
    "The quarterback question lingers, but the Browns traded and traded and traded and traded and traded and acquired nine players and three high draft choices.

    It's tough to argue those results." Pat McManamon 5-3-16

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydog View Post
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    I don't trust the Dolan's to spend it on the right guys let alone spend it period.
    Well if he wants to compete, he'll need to spend. Or watch attendance continue to decline.

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    The Scrabble-Almonte deal is looking real good tight now. Maybe he can pull off another one.

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    Heard this mentioned on the Hooley show today. Good read. I'll paste it since the stupid website makes you answer a Q before you can see it.

    Jim Ingraham: Indians and Browns take different approaches but both prove adept at losing

    http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2...hes-to-losing/

    Another Indians season ended quietly Sunday.
    Time flies when you’re mediocre.
    Another Browns season continued Sunday, with a loss that puts the “flabber” in flabbergasting.
    Time stands still when you’re stuck in the mud.
    Two teams in one city not getting it done in two different ways.
    Enjoy.
    Actually, the contrast between the Indians and Browns is interesting, instructive — and discouraging if you’re a fan of either, or both. There’s more than one way not to get to where you’re going. The Indians and Browns have the bald tires to prove it.
    The Indians tend to consistently make sound, logical, defendable decisions. They have been the picture of administrative stability. They are not knee-jerk reactionaries.
    Through the years they have been an incubator for executive talent that regularly gets hired to high-ranking jobs with other teams. They have one of the most decorated, respected and popular managers in the sport.
    What they don’t have is ownership with enough money to cover whatever holes are created by a spotty minor league system, or through bad luck, injuries or free agent defections.
    In other words, their margin for error while trying to build a winner is zero. For the Indians to have a championship season everything has to go right. Not almost everything. EVERYTHING. In professional sports, of course, everything goes wrong far more frequently than everything goes right.
    Which brings us to the Browns, who are the poster boys for Murphy’s Law.
    The Browns are the exact opposite of the Indians. The Browns have ownership that has more money than it knows what to do with. How else to explain an owner willing to pony up $1 billion for a franchise so forlorn?
    In professional sports, money isn’t everything, but it is something. In the Browns’ case, money isn’t anything.
    Perhaps never before in the history of professional sports has so much wealth produced so much nothing as the nothing produced by the two wealthy owners of the Browns, since the franchise forced its way back into the league three years after the league willingly allowed the sport’s most loyal fan base to be kicked to the curb.
    For those who think money, and money alone, is all that is needed to build a championship team, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I submit the Cleveland Browns.
    The Indians don’t have the Browns’ money — not even close — but the Browns don’t have the Indians’ decision-makers. Not even close.
    Perhaps never before in the history of professional sports decision-making has one franchise, over the course of 16 years, made more bad ones than the Browns.
    They’re not just consistently bad decisions. They are inexplicable, spectacularly ill-conceived, head-shaking, forehead-slapping decisions.
    The draft, for example. The Browns don’t just whiff on individual draft picks, they whiff on entire rounds. Entire drafts. The draft is specifically designed to make bad teams good. Except, apparently, the one in Cleveland.
    A general manager being suspended for four games by the league because he was texting the sidelines during games? You can’t make this
    stuff up.
    How about hiring an assistant coach who had previously been arrested three times in four years on alcohol-related charges, and then — who saw this coming? — having to suspend him and finally release him after a domestic assault accusation (though he was not charged).
    In an era in which the NFL has become a passing league, the Browns made the bizarre decision that the wide receiver position is not important, and have proceeded accordingly. Maddeningly. Incomprehensibly. They are the only known NFL team currently operating under the philosophy that it’s not that important to be as good as you possibly can be at every position.
    That explains a lot.
    General managers? Seven since 1999, including one who was fired after eight games, and another who wasn’t allowed to talk to the media.
    Head coaches? Four in the last six years, eight in the last 16.
    Starting quarterbacks? Twenty-three since 1999.
    Not that anyone’s counting, or anything.
    All of this goes back to decision making and decision makers. The Browns have had bad ones making bad ones for far too long, and that has nothing to do with how rich the owner is or the previous owner was.
    The Indians have been underfinanced for far too long, to the point where the owner is now actively seeking a minority owner.
    So what we have here is a baseball team lacking the football team’s money and a football team lacking the baseball team’s decision makers.
    So there’s one good front office between them. Separately? Well, the Browns this year are going to have more uniform combinations than victories, and the last time the Indians won the World Series Harry Truman — who was born in 1884 — was in the White House.
    Not that anyone’s counting or anything.

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    Tribe is about to land Lucroy for a ton of prospects and not Frazier, Zimmer or Naquin! Get it done and get a LH reliever too.
    "The quarterback question lingers, but the Browns traded and traded and traded and traded and traded and acquired nine players and three high draft choices.

    It's tough to argue those results." Pat McManamon 5-3-16

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    Cool

    Andrew Miller is close to coming here too!! WooHoo!!!!

    "The quarterback question lingers, but the Browns traded and traded and traded and traded and traded and acquired nine players and three high draft choices.

    It's tough to argue those results." Pat McManamon 5-3-16

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