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    Bernie has come out and said he would love the opportunity to turn the Browns around. He said if the team wasn't competitive in two years, he'd fire himself. It WOULD be nice to have a guy who is passionate about the Cleveland Browns run the franchise, and the guy knows his stuff. I'm curious what everybody else's thoughts are. Would you hire Bernie if you were the Browns? If so, in what capacity would you hire him? GM? Team president?

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    YES!!! Kosar for Team President in a fucking heartbeat. Bernie gets it, and Bernie unlike Haslam, Farmer and Scheiner fucking LIVES for the Browns. I've been clamoring for it for years, hire Bernie and let him pick the GM and he and the GM pick the HC. I guarantee Bernie can get better caliber candidates to hear us out and interview than dumbass Haslam. I also guarantee he will do everything in his power to fix this shit, unlike Holmgren going golfing in between hiring his jobless loser friends or Haslam worrying about new uniform designs instead of winning.

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    Kosar as an executive? I feel like his detractors would use his past to slam him but all in all, it's as KoK said, dude bleeds brown and orange. What more could you ask for from an executive? Not some fat fuck slamming mojitos from his golf cart in training camp and telling fans to lower their fucking expectations. Haslam looking out for his wallet is not surprising but if he really cares about winning I think that he should bring in someone with a reputation as a senior executive to re-arrange the house if/when Farmer/Pettine get the boot. If that guy is Kosar? Well so be it.
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    Sadly it won't be Kosar I don't think. It will probably be fuckface Alex Scheiner being given the reigns publicly to sell us on more bullshit as they hire some "up and coming" assistant coach from a bottom feeder team and another mediocre talent scout as our new "hidden gem" GM.

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    Bernie shouldve been in charge from the start.
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    I dont know..

    He'd really make a better coordinator or position coach rather than a GM.

    I dont think hes ever scouted before.

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    Yeah. I'd take him as an OC or QB coach but not an executive. Too much baggage imo.

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    I'll take him in any way that's significant.

    And it drives me nuts how so many uninformed people think he's drunk. That's not it. It's from the concussions.

    I really like his eye for talent and that he's not afraid to speak his mind.
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    Of course they should. That's always been obvious.

    Not so obvious to the idiots at the top though.

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    I'd take him.

    But since this org won't trust him to broadcast preseason games, it's pretty obvious they won't trust him to run a team in any capacity.
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    I don't want to disrespect what he did for the organization as a player, but I wouldn't hire him. It's quite obvious he's got some issues. Whether it be alcohol or what, or whether it really is concussion related issues, I honestly don't think he's capable of the types of jobs he's looking for (GM, President, coach, whatever). I mean, he's never done any of it before?! Sorry, but Bernie isn't the answer to the organizational issues.

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    Agree w this. Just hear him out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OconRecon View Post
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    Agree w this. Just hear him out.


    Agree. See what he has to say and planned. PLEASE fucking listen.

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    The thing is...

    Is a two year turnaround realistic? I guess it should be when other teams have pulled it off... To me it would take at least two seasons, and if no progress is made by year three then change needs to be made. The NFL is too bipolar... I may also be affected by Cleveland syndrome :P
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    Is our situation truly comparable to other organizations? I mean we have to be damn near unique in the amount of turnover. Can there be another, more fractured organization from a "culture" standpoint?

    I know that's Bernie's theme too. The remedy is the tough part. Seems we've tried every brand of change out there.

    7 more games to go. If we lose out, or nearly so, then change is coming no matter what I'd wager. If we win more than we lose (unlikely I know, but just listing it as an option) then maybe the continuity thing will "feel" better to some. I think the division games will be key. If we somehow manage to go at least .500 in the division that would be positive.

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    Hell to the yes!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Evil View Post
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    The thing is...

    Is a two year turnaround realistic? I guess it should be when other teams have pulled it off... To me it would take at least two seasons, and if no progress is made by year three then change needs to be made. The NFL is too bipolar... I may also be affected by Cleveland syndrome :P
    In my view 8-8 by year two is a reasonable benchmark for a turn around, no? Or at the least post a better record from season 1 to season 2.

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    Is there another Browns Legend who is more suitable for the job apart from one at Ravens. Not sure if Kosar can be our John Elway for the Browns

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    Kosar as qb coach...help manziel with what hes seeing...and confidence.

    Oconnell as oc

    Deflippio as hc

    Hire top flight dc and lets go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greythan View Post
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    Is our situation truly comparable to other organizations? I mean we have to be damn near unique in the amount of turnover. Can there be another, more fractured organization from a "culture" standpoint?

    I know that's Bernie's theme too. The remedy is the tough part. Seems we've tried every brand of change out there.

    7 more games to go. If we lose out, or nearly so, then change is coming no matter what I'd wager. If we win more than we lose (unlikely I know, but just listing it as an option) then maybe the continuity thing will "feel" better to some. I think the division games will be key. If we somehow manage to go at least .500 in the division that would be positive.

    Ugh. Hate talking about this at all.
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    I love Bernie as much as the next guy however...

    He does not play well with others.

    His mental capacity and stability are huge question marks.

    His work ethic at this point in his life is...lets say questionable at best.

    I have no problem with the Browns finding a place for Bernie and giving him a voice. I really don't think he is cut out to be a decision maker on any level.

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    Give us Bernie.... This is long overdue! Fire farmer today and put Bernie in...instant improvement! When it comes to The Cleveland Browns who could the fans trust more Bernie or farmer? Bernie loves the Browns...farmer just sucks ass. To those of you who oppose this I have one question, Could Bernie really do worse than farmer? Personally I don't think its possible to do worse than farmer.

    Now if you want to keep farmer around...ok... he can wash jocks.
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