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    1: Fire Farmer, Pettine and Co.

    2: Hire Romeo Crennel back.

    3: Hire one of the Raven's personnel directors, preferably a big spender.

    4: Sign Ryan Mallett.

    5: Get 2 WR's who can run fast and go deep.

    6: Toss that shit deep!

    7: Eventually we'll get a winning season going.

    I am just sayin'... Let's DO this!

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    Puff, Puff, Pass... Not Puff, Puff, Puff, Puff..Puff, Puff.
    I like 5 and 6 maybe 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Kings View Post
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    1: Fire Farmer, Pettine and Co.

    2: Hire Romeo Crennel back.

    3: Hire one of the Raven's personnel directors, preferably a big spender.

    4: Sign Ryan Mallett.

    5: Get 2 WR's who can run fast and go deep.

    6: Toss that shit deep!

    7: Eventually we'll get a winning season going.

    I am just sayin'... Let's DO this!
    You must have not noticed that Brian Hoyer beat out Ryan Mallett for the starting job in Houston. Anybody who can't beat out Hoyer in a fair competition is not a quarterback I want for the Browns. And if I ever saw a fair and equitable competition, that was it. O'Brien bent over backwards to be fair to both. Hoyer was better.

    I actually would not want either, but I certainly do not want someone worse than Hoyer.
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    I'm just glad you didn't say "The Browns should get rid of Haslam".
    2017 Draft class: Garrett, Peppers, Njoku, Kizer, Ogunjobi, Collins (via trade of 103), Wilson, Johnson, Brantley, Gonzalez, Dayes
    2018 Draft picks: Extra picks - a 1st (Texans), two in 2nd (Eagles & Texans), a 4th (Panthers/A.Lee), & a 6th (Steelers/Gilbert) - 12 total
    Philly trade result: C. Coleman, Peppers, Kizer, Kessler, R. Louis, S. Coleman, Drango, Kindred, Payton, 2018 1st rndr (Texans) & 2018 2nd rndr (Eagles)

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    I will say more to this when I am not at work but HELL NO to #2
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    1. Fire Farmer, Pettine, and Co.

    Ridiculous. If anything Haslam needs to go to them and guarantee they won't be fired at the end of the season. The browns need some sense of consistency for us to ever get out of the bottom of the NFL. Changing entire front offices every two years is the ultimate recipe for disaster. Look how Big Ben struggled early under his new OC Haley and Flacco with his third OC in so many years. Superbowl winning quarterbacks struggle under a new OC and we expect the Browns to give us gold when there is a new regime every two years. Another point is that if we keep firing our entire front office no one will come work for the Browns and we will continue the rut of second rate coaches and management.

    2.Hire Romeo Crennel Back

    If Mike Pettine loses every game the rest of the season he will have a .391 win% vs Romeo's .337 win%. And Crennel did a terrible job as a head coach. Quarterback controversy, inconsistent play, bad clock management, fumbling about press conferences, etc. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen. If we were to hire a HC back I pray it would be Mangini

    3. Hire one of the Raven's personnel directors, preferably a big spender

    Excellent point. The Browns have yet to try and hire someone away from another franchise, overpay them, and give them control of personnel with the ability to spend a boat load of money on free agents and such. Right now I'm trying to figure out who Mike Holmgren currently works for so we can give him a second chance

    4.Sign Ryan Mallett.

    What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    Ryan Mallet is a joke. At least when Manziel couldn't beat Hoyer out for the job he was fucked up and out all night partying. What was Mallet's excuse

    5. Get 2 WR's who can run fast and go deep.

    Benjamin, Hawkins, and Gabriel all run a sub 4.4 and barring any setbacks we get Gordon back next year. Yes our wide receiver core is small but speed isn't the issue. Need to focus more on building consistency and continuity with the offense which goes back to my point on 1

    6. Toss that shit deep!

    Look at Derek Anderson and Branden Weeden. Toss that shit deep was their college playbook

    7. Eventually we'll get a winning season going.

    We will eventually get a winning season but not by overhauling our coaches, front office, and players again. Cleveland will become a winner by being patient and letting people make mistakes, as long as they learn from them. By no means am I saying that I think Pettine and Farmer are the guys to lead Cleveland to the promised land, but I do know if the vicious cycle that has torn apart coaches, managers, and players in the past doesn't stop all of us Cleveland fans will be bitching and whining about the same problems in two years.

    I know it is frustrating and everyone is tired of hearing, "It's a process." But it is a process and the constant cleaning house needs to stop sometime. Why not now.

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    Hey, Woo, I hope you're not really taking this seriously.

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    This is from last week. It's far from spot on, but has some good food for thought and is in the spirit of the thread:



    How To Fix The Cleveland Browns By 2016
    By Robert D. Cobb - Nov 2, 2015

    CLEVELAND – 24 hours after yet another second-half collapse in a 34-20 loss to the visiting Arizona Cardinals, it may be time for owner Jimmy Haslam to consider cleaning house.

    To quote a meme on Facebook from fellow INSCMagazine’s Senior Browns beat writer Matthew Wilder, watching the Browns play is like watching the movie Titanic every Sunday and rooting for the ship, if that is the case, then after seeing a visibly battered and beaten Josh McCown stay on the field, then all of Dawg Pound Nation may be ready to scramble for the lifeboats, as the prospect of a an iceberg-like fire sale is fast approaching.

    To call the Cleveland Browns a dumpster fire is an insult to innocent dumpsters unable to defend themselves. The Browns are—to put it bluntly—a farrago, or total failure or fiasco.

    Calls for the immediate ouster of head coach Mike Pettine and general manager thanks to a myriad display of arrogance, incompetence, negligence and utter incompetence reached a fever pitch after the Browns allowed the Cardinals to score 24 unanswered points in the second half. For a team that was falsely advertised as a run-first, defense second squad, they failed miserably on both fronts once again as they surrendered 491 total yards on offense.

    Longtime Browns tormentor Carson Palmer continued his mastery over Cleveland in improving to 10-4 in passing for 372 yards and four touchdowns. Chris Johnson—who the Browns passed on in free agency—rushed for 109 yards on 30 carries.

    Did I fail to mention that he is 30 years old?

    It was more of the same from the Browns in being unable to come up with stops on third down and failing to take advantage of turnovers—they had four!—and in the history of football, whichever team that wins the turnover battle normally wins roughly 80 percent of the time.

    So how in the name of Otto Graham did the Browns not win, despite being a plus-2 in turnovers?

    It is these stats, that is surely driving the workers at the Factory of Sadness crazy on yet another sullen Monday, and in all honestly, if Haslam has any sense, he will do the right thing and blow it up and start from scratch.

    Below are my 15 ways on how to fix the Browns by 2016:

    1. Fire GM Ray Farmer: His dreadful record on first-round draft picks (Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel) speaks for itself. While the jury is still out on center Cameron Erving, don’t even bother talking to any Browns fan about him passing on wide receivers such as Odell Beckham Jr. Mike Evans, Jarvis Landry, Kelvin Benjamin, Sammy Watkins.

    Farmer’s benign arrogance on passing on playmakers and utter disdain for them coupled with a smug I am-the-smartest-guy-in-the-room condescension is nothing short of idiotic. Did I fail to mention that he signed Dwayne Bowe to a 2-year $12 million deal with $9 million guaranteed?

    2. Fire Head Coach Mike Pettine: To be honest, I didn’t even know who he was when the Browns surprised many in hiring the former Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator. Highly touted as a tough and hard-nosed defensive mind who loves a smash-mouth running game, he may be the most blindly stubborn Browns head coach in history.

    And that’s saying something.

    Issues such as questionable clock management, failure to make second-half adjustments, blind loyalty towards mediocre veteran quarterbacks such as Brian Hoyer and Josh McCown, Pettine’s in-game decisions are just as mind-numbing as his monotone post-game pressers.

    Respectfully, the faux macho WWE tough guy-wannabe schtick is seriously beginning to wear thin especially when you leave a QB such as McCown, who already had a banged-up shoulder and was two weeks back from a concussion, instead of giving Manziel a chance to develop.

    3. Trade C Alex Mack and RT Mitchell Schwartz: Purely a business move, Mack is set to hit free agency after the season and with first-round pick Cameron Irving on the sidelines, now would be the right time to get something for one of the best centers in the NFL, if he decides to waive his no-trade clause.

    In the case of Schwartz, the former second-rounder—also out of Cal like Mack—is one of the better right tackles and should fetch a fair return.

    (Editor’s Note: Per reports, Mack will not waive his no-trade clause*)

    4. Trade LT Joe Thomas: After eight years of service to the Browns, it is time to move possibly the best left tackle in the NFL in Joe Thomas. I never thought I would blog such worlds in a column, but there are plenty of teams who would happily offer a first or second round pick for the former Wisconsin standout.

    5. Cut/Trade QB Johnny Manziel: I’m going to play devil’s advocate here for moment. I still feel that Manizel deserves a chance to show what he can do in Cleveland. However based on the collective stubbornness of Pettine, it may be best if both parties parted ways.

    My observation is that unless Manziel showed enough flashes that he would already be the starter, couple that with the recent off-the-field distractions and playing in a town that loves their own(Hoyer) and the former Heisman Trophy winner is getting a raw deal under a stubborn coach.

    6. Cut WR Dwayne Bowe: If Ray Farmer is guilty of collective arrogance and being short-sighted, then Bowe is guilty of embezzlement to the tune of $9 million. Easily the worst Browns free-signing since Andre Rison.

    7. Cut CB Justin Gilbert: When you are a top ten first-round pick who cannot beat out the likes of Pierre Desir, K’Waun Williams and Johnson Bademosi and are reduced to returning kicks, then it is time for you to go. Sadly, he and Manziel are the latest in a long line of first-round misses by the Browns.

    8. Cut OLB Barkevious Mingo: There isn’t much to say about Mingo, because the former sixth overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft out of LSU. I’m not sure if it’s due to scheme or talent, but Mingo has failed to live up to expectations.

    9. Hire Peyton Manning as Executive President of Football Operations: Whenever No. 18 decides to hang up his cleats and move into a front office role, he may have on waiting for him in Cleveland.

    A long-time friend of Haslam—a big-time Tennessee fan and supporter—the hiring of someone of Manning’s acute football knowledge and business savvy would be a huge PR coup for the Browns.

    10. Hire Bernie Kosar as a Front Office Consultant: Long beloved by Browns fans, Bernie Kosar brings an innate sense of knowledge and understand of modern-day football that is solely lacking in Berea.

    Much like Manning, Kosar could assist Haslam as a consultant and work alongside Manning. Plus with him being a civic icon, it would also lend the Browns a sense of credibility that is beginning to be seriously question by many fans.

    11. Hire Pats Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels as Head Coach: In a truly novel move by the Browns organization, Cleveland hires a head coach with real coaching experience in Josh McDaniels. A 39-year-old native of Barberton and a former Canton McKinley/John Carroll alum, the four-time Super Bowl winner has worked with Tom Brady and would be the type of young, yet aggressive offensive-minded head coach that the Browns need.

    For years, the Browns have hired unknown and unproven head coaches, and a proverbial hiring of McDaniels changes that trend, as well as gives Cleveland a much-needed injection of energy.While his coaching record with the Denver Broncos was a mere 11-17, the type of offense he would bring to Cleveland may be just what the Browns need.

    12. Hire Lions senior personnel executive Brian Xanders as GM: Continuing with the distinct Denver Broncos theme and flavor of this blog, if Haslam wants to build the Browns into a respectable NFL franchise, then why not model it after one of the elite most stable and winning organizations in the Denver Broncos. And hire the man responsible for bringing Manning to the Mile High city in current Detroit Lions senior personnel executive Brian Xanders.

    Unlike Farmer, Xanders truly believes in building thru bot the draft and free agency as he worked in all areas of the Lions player personnel department in scouting, player development and advance scouting.

    Since 2013, he has overhauled Detroit’s 90-man roster in acquiring 16 new starters and 76 new players. While in Denver, Xanders had a hand in overalling 55 of 61 players who were acquired through the draft, free agency of re-signed by the Broncos.

    Among the players that Xanders helped bring to Denver in free agency are the forementioned Manning, SS Brian Dawkins, CB Champ Bailey, WR Brandon Marshall, DE Elvis Dumervil and OT Ryan Clady. Xanders also had a role in helping Denver draft LB Von Miller, WR DeMaryius Thomas, TE Julius Thomas and CB Chris Harris.

    If I’m Haslam, I am speed-dialing Xanders’ agent post-haste.

    13. Switch Back To The 4-3: This a personal choice on my end. I have never been a fan of the 3-4, due to the Browns lack of a true Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly type of linebacker. With the 3-4, you must have LB’s capable of covering in space and able to stop the run.

    While Craig Robertson and Christian Kirksey are good, with apologies to Karlos Dansby—who isn’t getting any younger—but Cleveland lacks a true leader at that position. On the defensive line, there is some talent in the form of Danny Shelton and Jamie Meder, who I feel would make a terrific 1-2 punch at DT with Desmond Bryant and Paul Kruger both at DE.

    Cleveland does not have the LB personnel of Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New England or Seattle to effectively run a 3-4, and hopefully under a new—and more competent—defensive coordinator, that they switch back to the 4-3.

    14. Draft Michigan State QB Connor Cook: This is based on the notion that the prospective new—or current—front office feels that Manziel simply isn’t part of the long-term future of the franchise, then it wouldn’t surprise me to see Cleveland go after local product in Connor Cook.

    Cook, a native of Hinckley Township and former standout at Walsh Jesuit may be the perfect fit for Cleveland’s new look offense in 2016. At 6’4 and 220 pounds, has the size and experience in a pro-style offense that Cleveland needs.

    The 2014 Rose Bowl MVP completed 58.4 percent of his passes for 3,214 yards, 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions for the Spartans in 2014 and has so far looked like one of the top QB prospects for the 2016 NFL Draft in passing for 2,070 yards, 17 touchdowns and two interceptions.

    15. Draft a wide receiver! Whoever is running the Browns 2016 NFL Draft, I speak for all Browns fans when I say this, PLEASE TAKE A WR! For whatever rhyme or reason, the short-sighted and pig-headed Farmer seems to avoid taking a wide receiver like a plaque.

    Scratch that, he actually selected former Washington State wideout—his first in two years—in Vince Mayle only to cut him in preseason. It is these kind of head-scratching moves that infuriate Browns fans everywhere considering their lack of top-level playmakers at the position.

    You have Bowe basically stealing nine million to be the most expensive sideline cheerleader outside of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, which only infuriates Browns fans even more, with the exception of Brian Hartline at 6’2, no other wideout is over 5’10. I can understand the appeal of smaller and more agile small wideouts, but not every pass-catcher is Antonio Brown or T.Y. Hilton.

    Whatever is behind Farmer’s pig-headness in blatantly refusing to draft a wideout will be corrected in the new regime as Ole Miss’ Laquon Treadwell, Pitt’s Tyler Boyd and Ohio State’s Michael Thomas should be on the board by the time Cleveland picks.

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    Embrace the 21st century NFL and establish an identity: As much as I love my Browns, they are so behind the times in trying to play an out-dated Neanderthal-style of run-first football in today’s passing era.

    It is sad when you can almost predict what type of play Cleveland will run based on formation and personnel grouping. If I can predict an inside-zone run off tackle from my living room couch, the so can professional defensive coordinators who are actually paid to do so.

    For the Browns to effectively compete, they must decide what kind of team they want to be, while being a run-first based team in the rugged AFC North may work, Cleveland doesn’t do it well enough. Do they want to be a passing team? Honestly, they lack a strong-armed franchise-type of QB to run a spread, zone-read or West Coast offense.

    Whichever new regime that comes in after this season will have to decide immediately what kind of team they want to be and stick to it. One thing for sure is that Cleveland needs to develop some form of identity.

    Based on the way things are going now at 2-5, that is wishful thinking at best and a long ways away at worst. Only in Cleveland!

    http://theinscribermag.com/how-to-fi...rowns-by-2016/
    2017 Draft class: Garrett, Peppers, Njoku, Kizer, Ogunjobi, Collins (via trade of 103), Wilson, Johnson, Brantley, Gonzalez, Dayes
    2018 Draft picks: Extra picks - a 1st (Texans), two in 2nd (Eagles & Texans), a 4th (Panthers/A.Lee), & a 6th (Steelers/Gilbert) - 12 total
    Philly trade result: C. Coleman, Peppers, Kizer, Kessler, R. Louis, S. Coleman, Drango, Kindred, Payton, 2018 1st rndr (Texans) & 2018 2nd rndr (Eagles)

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    Just a little fired up from all the negative reactions to the Browns over the past couple weeks.

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    The Browns will be a lot better offensively if Gordon comes back right. If not, we spend a high pick on a WR -- there are several big, good receivers in the draft.

    I like Josh Doctson out of TCU: 6'4", can really go get the ball.

    The kid from Baylor (Corey Coleman) is an incredible receiver. He's going to be a star in the NFL, but he's 5'10", 190.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pace/74128292/

    He's elite NFL fast. If Gordon's back, I'd take him.
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    11. Hire Pats Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels as Head Coach: In a truly novel move by the Browns organization, Cleveland hires a head coach with real coaching experience in Josh McDaniels. A 39-year-old native of Barberton and a former Canton McKinley/John Carroll alum, the four-time Super Bowl winner has worked with Tom Brady and would be the type of young, yet aggressive offensive-minded head coach that the Browns need.
    Now that I like.

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    Fire pettine and oneil. Promote deflippio and glenn

    Draft bosa...or trade down and draft ezekiel elliott and get a 2nd this year and third next year.

    2nd round get best lb or d lineman and braxton miller.
    In third take sterling shepard or pharoah cooper.

    We need all new wr. Gordon benjamin are only wr i want to keep. Hawkins gabriel hartline marlon moore all them guys arent nfl studs n never will be anywhere.

    Miller can add dynamic to team we have never had..... Playmaking that can change a defense anytime. Qb wr...rb anything.

    Bosa is what this team needs. Stop run...get fumbles...sacks. D
    Makes teams double team. He works hard and is gonna have good long career. Bosa would change browns defense.

    Try to hire urban meyer.

    If we cant get meyer....maybe dantonio jon gruden

    If none of them.... Deflilppio as hc.

    If we cant get a true hc with real winning pedigree. Lets keep the hot young offensive mind we got with nfl success.

    Manziel is qb.

    Sign kaepernick.


    Des bryant
    Alex mack

    Whitner
    Bowe

    All need to go.

    Not worth money and bad for rebuilding young inspiring team.

    Mccown needs hired as qb coach.

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    Please for the love of god. No more Belichick tree coaches!
    BROWNS 2017: I'M JASON LA CANFORA'S INSIDER
    "I just do not get worked up over games anymore. I realized some time ago there is no point in getting worked up over them. I have no control over the outcome, it has no impact on me personally, and I have little to no actual facts to work from on properly analyzing the results." - Masters

    "My Mother's day card always says "Mum, I love you less than I love Joe Thomas. You can't even block, for fuck sakes." - brownsdownunder

    "Don't try to make me feel dumb for my opinion. You can kiss my ass." - MalcolmBrown

    "Hue and the guys are gonna turn that Frankenstein into a Frankenfine!" - next2nothing on RGIII

    WOOF WOOF WOOF!


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    Try to hire urban meyer.
    Fucking Buckeye fanboys.....

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    This is from last week. It's far from spot on, but has some good food for thought and is in the spirit of the thread:



    How To Fix The Cleveland Browns By 2016
    By Robert D. Cobb - Nov 2, 2015

    CLEVELAND – 24 hours after yet another second-half collapse in a 34-20 loss to the visiting Arizona Cardinals, it may be time for owner Jimmy Haslam to consider cleaning house.

    To quote a meme on Facebook from fellow INSCMagazine’s Senior Browns beat writer Matthew Wilder, watching the Browns play is like watching the movie Titanic every Sunday and rooting for the ship, if that is the case, then after seeing a visibly battered and beaten Josh McCown stay on the field, then all of Dawg Pound Nation may be ready to scramble for the lifeboats, as the prospect of a an iceberg-like fire sale is fast approaching.

    To call the Cleveland Browns a dumpster fire is an insult to innocent dumpsters unable to defend themselves. The Browns are—to put it bluntly—a farrago, or total failure or fiasco.

    Calls for the immediate ouster of head coach Mike Pettine and general manager thanks to a myriad display of arrogance, incompetence, negligence and utter incompetence reached a fever pitch after the Browns allowed the Cardinals to score 24 unanswered points in the second half. For a team that was falsely advertised as a run-first, defense second squad, they failed miserably on both fronts once again as they surrendered 491 total yards on offense.

    Longtime Browns tormentor Carson Palmer continued his mastery over Cleveland in improving to 10-4 in passing for 372 yards and four touchdowns. Chris Johnson—who the Browns passed on in free agency—rushed for 109 yards on 30 carries.

    Did I fail to mention that he is 30 years old?

    It was more of the same from the Browns in being unable to come up with stops on third down and failing to take advantage of turnovers—they had four!—and in the history of football, whichever team that wins the turnover battle normally wins roughly 80 percent of the time.

    So how in the name of Otto Graham did the Browns not win, despite being a plus-2 in turnovers?

    It is these stats, that is surely driving the workers at the Factory of Sadness crazy on yet another sullen Monday, and in all honestly, if Haslam has any sense, he will do the right thing and blow it up and start from scratch.

    Below are my 15 ways on how to fix the Browns by 2016:

    1. Fire GM Ray Farmer: His dreadful record on first-round draft picks (Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel) speaks for itself. While the jury is still out on center Cameron Erving, don’t even bother talking to any Browns fan about him passing on wide receivers such as Odell Beckham Jr. Mike Evans, Jarvis Landry, Kelvin Benjamin, Sammy Watkins.

    Farmer’s benign arrogance on passing on playmakers and utter disdain for them coupled with a smug I am-the-smartest-guy-in-the-room condescension is nothing short of idiotic. Did I fail to mention that he signed Dwayne Bowe to a 2-year $12 million deal with $9 million guaranteed?

    2. Fire Head Coach Mike Pettine: To be honest, I didn’t even know who he was when the Browns surprised many in hiring the former Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator. Highly touted as a tough and hard-nosed defensive mind who loves a smash-mouth running game, he may be the most blindly stubborn Browns head coach in history.

    And that’s saying something.

    Issues such as questionable clock management, failure to make second-half adjustments, blind loyalty towards mediocre veteran quarterbacks such as Brian Hoyer and Josh McCown, Pettine’s in-game decisions are just as mind-numbing as his monotone post-game pressers.

    Respectfully, the faux macho WWE tough guy-wannabe schtick is seriously beginning to wear thin especially when you leave a QB such as McCown, who already had a banged-up shoulder and was two weeks back from a concussion, instead of giving Manziel a chance to develop.

    3. Trade C Alex Mack and RT Mitchell Schwartz: Purely a business move, Mack is set to hit free agency after the season and with first-round pick Cameron Irving on the sidelines, now would be the right time to get something for one of the best centers in the NFL, if he decides to waive his no-trade clause.

    In the case of Schwartz, the former second-rounder—also out of Cal like Mack—is one of the better right tackles and should fetch a fair return.

    (Editor’s Note: Per reports, Mack will not waive his no-trade clause*)

    4. Trade LT Joe Thomas: After eight years of service to the Browns, it is time to move possibly the best left tackle in the NFL in Joe Thomas. I never thought I would blog such worlds in a column, but there are plenty of teams who would happily offer a first or second round pick for the former Wisconsin standout.

    5. Cut/Trade QB Johnny Manziel: I’m going to play devil’s advocate here for moment. I still feel that Manizel deserves a chance to show what he can do in Cleveland. However based on the collective stubbornness of Pettine, it may be best if both parties parted ways.

    My observation is that unless Manziel showed enough flashes that he would already be the starter, couple that with the recent off-the-field distractions and playing in a town that loves their own(Hoyer) and the former Heisman Trophy winner is getting a raw deal under a stubborn coach.

    6. Cut WR Dwayne Bowe: If Ray Farmer is guilty of collective arrogance and being short-sighted, then Bowe is guilty of embezzlement to the tune of $9 million. Easily the worst Browns free-signing since Andre Rison.

    7. Cut CB Justin Gilbert: When you are a top ten first-round pick who cannot beat out the likes of Pierre Desir, K’Waun Williams and Johnson Bademosi and are reduced to returning kicks, then it is time for you to go. Sadly, he and Manziel are the latest in a long line of first-round misses by the Browns.

    8. Cut OLB Barkevious Mingo: There isn’t much to say about Mingo, because the former sixth overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft out of LSU. I’m not sure if it’s due to scheme or talent, but Mingo has failed to live up to expectations.

    9. Hire Peyton Manning as Executive President of Football Operations: Whenever No. 18 decides to hang up his cleats and move into a front office role, he may have on waiting for him in Cleveland.

    A long-time friend of Haslam—a big-time Tennessee fan and supporter—the hiring of someone of Manning’s acute football knowledge and business savvy would be a huge PR coup for the Browns.

    10. Hire Bernie Kosar as a Front Office Consultant: Long beloved by Browns fans, Bernie Kosar brings an innate sense of knowledge and understand of modern-day football that is solely lacking in Berea.

    Much like Manning, Kosar could assist Haslam as a consultant and work alongside Manning. Plus with him being a civic icon, it would also lend the Browns a sense of credibility that is beginning to be seriously question by many fans.

    11. Hire Pats Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels as Head Coach: In a truly novel move by the Browns organization, Cleveland hires a head coach with real coaching experience in Josh McDaniels. A 39-year-old native of Barberton and a former Canton McKinley/John Carroll alum, the four-time Super Bowl winner has worked with Tom Brady and would be the type of young, yet aggressive offensive-minded head coach that the Browns need.

    For years, the Browns have hired unknown and unproven head coaches, and a proverbial hiring of McDaniels changes that trend, as well as gives Cleveland a much-needed injection of energy.While his coaching record with the Denver Broncos was a mere 11-17, the type of offense he would bring to Cleveland may be just what the Browns need.

    12. Hire Lions senior personnel executive Brian Xanders as GM: Continuing with the distinct Denver Broncos theme and flavor of this blog, if Haslam wants to build the Browns into a respectable NFL franchise, then why not model it after one of the elite most stable and winning organizations in the Denver Broncos. And hire the man responsible for bringing Manning to the Mile High city in current Detroit Lions senior personnel executive Brian Xanders.

    Unlike Farmer, Xanders truly believes in building thru bot the draft and free agency as he worked in all areas of the Lions player personnel department in scouting, player development and advance scouting.

    Since 2013, he has overhauled Detroit’s 90-man roster in acquiring 16 new starters and 76 new players. While in Denver, Xanders had a hand in overalling 55 of 61 players who were acquired through the draft, free agency of re-signed by the Broncos.

    Among the players that Xanders helped bring to Denver in free agency are the forementioned Manning, SS Brian Dawkins, CB Champ Bailey, WR Brandon Marshall, DE Elvis Dumervil and OT Ryan Clady. Xanders also had a role in helping Denver draft LB Von Miller, WR DeMaryius Thomas, TE Julius Thomas and CB Chris Harris.

    If I’m Haslam, I am speed-dialing Xanders’ agent post-haste.

    13. Switch Back To The 4-3: This a personal choice on my end. I have never been a fan of the 3-4, due to the Browns lack of a true Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly type of linebacker. With the 3-4, you must have LB’s capable of covering in space and able to stop the run.

    While Craig Robertson and Christian Kirksey are good, with apologies to Karlos Dansby—who isn’t getting any younger—but Cleveland lacks a true leader at that position. On the defensive line, there is some talent in the form of Danny Shelton and Jamie Meder, who I feel would make a terrific 1-2 punch at DT with Desmond Bryant and Paul Kruger both at DE.

    Cleveland does not have the LB personnel of Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New England or Seattle to effectively run a 3-4, and hopefully under a new—and more competent—defensive coordinator, that they switch back to the 4-3.

    14. Draft Michigan State QB Connor Cook: This is based on the notion that the prospective new—or current—front office feels that Manziel simply isn’t part of the long-term future of the franchise, then it wouldn’t surprise me to see Cleveland go after local product in Connor Cook.

    Cook, a native of Hinckley Township and former standout at Walsh Jesuit may be the perfect fit for Cleveland’s new look offense in 2016. At 6’4 and 220 pounds, has the size and experience in a pro-style offense that Cleveland needs.

    The 2014 Rose Bowl MVP completed 58.4 percent of his passes for 3,214 yards, 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions for the Spartans in 2014 and has so far looked like one of the top QB prospects for the 2016 NFL Draft in passing for 2,070 yards, 17 touchdowns and two interceptions.

    15. Draft a wide receiver! Whoever is running the Browns 2016 NFL Draft, I speak for all Browns fans when I say this, PLEASE TAKE A WR! For whatever rhyme or reason, the short-sighted and pig-headed Farmer seems to avoid taking a wide receiver like a plaque.

    Scratch that, he actually selected former Washington State wideout—his first in two years—in Vince Mayle only to cut him in preseason. It is these kind of head-scratching moves that infuriate Browns fans everywhere considering their lack of top-level playmakers at the position.

    You have Bowe basically stealing nine million to be the most expensive sideline cheerleader outside of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, which only infuriates Browns fans even more, with the exception of Brian Hartline at 6’2, no other wideout is over 5’10. I can understand the appeal of smaller and more agile small wideouts, but not every pass-catcher is Antonio Brown or T.Y. Hilton.

    Whatever is behind Farmer’s pig-headness in blatantly refusing to draft a wideout will be corrected in the new regime as Ole Miss’ Laquon Treadwell, Pitt’s Tyler Boyd and Ohio State’s Michael Thomas should be on the board by the time Cleveland picks.

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    Embrace the 21st century NFL and establish an identity: As much as I love my Browns, they are so behind the times in trying to play an out-dated Neanderthal-style of run-first football in today’s passing era.

    It is sad when you can almost predict what type of play Cleveland will run based on formation and personnel grouping. If I can predict an inside-zone run off tackle from my living room couch, the so can professional defensive coordinators who are actually paid to do so.

    For the Browns to effectively compete, they must decide what kind of team they want to be, while being a run-first based team in the rugged AFC North may work, Cleveland doesn’t do it well enough. Do they want to be a passing team? Honestly, they lack a strong-armed franchise-type of QB to run a spread, zone-read or West Coast offense.

    Whichever new regime that comes in after this season will have to decide immediately what kind of team they want to be and stick to it. One thing for sure is that Cleveland needs to develop some form of identity.

    Based on the way things are going now at 2-5, that is wishful thinking at best and a long ways away at worst. Only in Cleveland!

    http://theinscribermag.com/how-to-fi...rowns-by-2016/
    Some good ideas, some not so good ideas. #1-2 ARE GREAT IDEAS. You don't build a winner by sticking with a GM who can't draft and a HC who regresses. Period. Clevelanders have this fucked up sense of duty towards keeping trash around. No. Just no. Cut bait. #3 and #4 are stupid as hell and Retard4Eagle-esque. Hell to the no. 5-8 YES. #9 oh HELL NO. Hire Bernie in that spot, not motherfucking Manning. #11-#12 are the greatest ideas ever, I agree and I am betting Bernie is thinking the exact same thing. Actually I would almost guarantee it. 13 and 14 are more stupid shit that warrant facepalms all around. #16 is spot on though.

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    Some good ideas, some not so good ideas. #1-2 ARE GREAT IDEAS. You don't build a winner by sticking with a GM who can't draft and a HC who regresses. Period. Clevelanders have this fucked up sense of duty towards keeping trash around. No. Just no. Cut bait. #3 and #4 are stupid as hell and Retard4Eagle-esque. Hell to the no. 5-8 YES. #9 oh HELL NO. Hire Bernie in that spot, not motherfucking Manning. #11-#12 are the greatest ideas ever, I agree and I am betting Bernie is thinking the exact same thing. Actually I would almost guarantee it. 13 and 14 are more stupid shit that warrant facepalms all around. #16 is spot on though.
    Josh McDaniel was a total disaster in Denver and he's the latest in a LONG line of Belichick assistants who will not succeed on their own.

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    Josh McDaniel was a total disaster in Denver and he's the latest in a LONG line of Belichick assistants who will not succeed on their own.
    He took over an aging finesse WCO/4-3 team in Denver and in his first season had a freshly installed 3-4 in the top 10, had the offense functioning better with Kyle freaking Orton than with Cutlers sorry ass, drafted better than any GM we've had since the return and broke Shanahan's streak of 7-9 seasons. In season two there were some issues but at that point he had realized as most had that Denver needed a full rebuild. Instead he was fired part way into the season and not a surprise John Fox and Peyton Manning rode a roster that was mostly built with the foundation set in a season and a half by Brian Xander and Josh McDaniels. After being wrongly fired he smartly followed Belicheat's path and has spent the last 6 years further honing his craft in New England and learning from the admittedly few mistakes he made in Denver.

    He is experienced and I will take failures like top 10 Defense, a high powered offense and "failure" like hitting on Knowshon Moreno, Robert Ayers, David Bruton, Demaryius Thomas, Zane Beadles and Eric Decker in two drafts over the garbage we currently have and previously had all day everyday. He seems to be the top dog in a line of successes(Eric Mangini, Nick Saban, Charlie Weis, Thomas Dimitrioff, Scott Pioli ect ect ect). I'll take it.
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    1: Fire Farmer, Pettine and Co.

    2: Hire Romeo Crennel back.

    3: Hire one of the Raven's personnel directors, preferably a big spender.

    4: Sign Ryan Mallett.

    5: Get 2 WR's who can run fast and go deep.

    6: Toss that shit deep!

    7: Eventually we'll get a winning season going.

    I am just sayin'... Let's DO this!
    5,6,7 I can get on board with but fuck Mallet, Johnny will have twice the career he has, fuck the ravens and all involved with the organisation and fuck a retread.

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    1: Fire Farmer, Pettine and Co.

    2: Hire Romeo Crennel back.

    3: Hire one of the Raven's personnel directors, preferably a big spender.

    4: Sign Ryan Mallett.

    5: Get 2 WR's who can run fast and go deep.

    6: Toss that shit deep!

    7: Eventually we'll get a winning season going.

    I am just sayin'... Let's DO this!
    Good lord, bring Crennel back? This is a joke, right????!!!! He was TERRIBLE as a coach and we'd have an exact repeat of what we have now.

    Mallett??? Nooo, after all the shit he pulled. The kid is a goofball. Austin Davis is better than Mallett, anyhow.

    Now, I do say get two big, fast athletic receivers. That'll help reduce the number of blitzes and amount of jamming at the line which kills this team.

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    1. Fire Farmer, Pettine, and Co.

    Ridiculous. If anything Haslam needs to go to them and guarantee they won't be fired at the end of the season. The browns need some sense of consistency for us to ever get out of the bottom of the NFL. Changing entire front offices every two years is the ultimate recipe for disaster. Look how Big Ben struggled early under his new OC Haley and Flacco with his third OC in so many years. Superbowl winning quarterbacks struggle under a new OC and we expect the Browns to give us gold when there is a new regime every two years. Another point is that if we keep firing our entire front office no one will come work for the Browns and we will continue the rut of second rate coaches and management.

    2.Hire Romeo Crennel Back

    If Mike Pettine loses every game the rest of the season he will have a .391 win% vs Romeo's .337 win%. And Crennel did a terrible job as a head coach. Quarterback controversy, inconsistent play, bad clock management, fumbling about press conferences, etc. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen. If we were to hire a HC back I pray it would be Mangini

    3. Hire one of the Raven's personnel directors, preferably a big spender

    Excellent point. The Browns have yet to try and hire someone away from another franchise, overpay them, and give them control of personnel with the ability to spend a boat load of money on free agents and such. Right now I'm trying to figure out who Mike Holmgren currently works for so we can give him a second chance

    4.Sign Ryan Mallett.

    What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    Ryan Mallet is a joke. At least when Manziel couldn't beat Hoyer out for the job he was fucked up and out all night partying. What was Mallet's excuse

    5. Get 2 WR's who can run fast and go deep.

    Benjamin, Hawkins, and Gabriel all run a sub 4.4 and barring any setbacks we get Gordon back next year. Yes our wide receiver core is small but speed isn't the issue. Need to focus more on building consistency and continuity with the offense which goes back to my point on 1

    6. Toss that shit deep!

    Look at Derek Anderson and Branden Weeden. Toss that shit deep was their college playbook

    7. Eventually we'll get a winning season going.

    We will eventually get a winning season but not by overhauling our coaches, front office, and players again. Cleveland will become a winner by being patient and letting people make mistakes, as long as they learn from them. By no means am I saying that I think Pettine and Farmer are the guys to lead Cleveland to the promised land, but I do know if the vicious cycle that has torn apart coaches, managers, and players in the past doesn't stop all of us Cleveland fans will be bitching and whining about the same problems in two years.

    I know it is frustrating and everyone is tired of hearing, "It's a process." But it is a process and the constant cleaning house needs to stop sometime. Why not now.
    Chances of Gordon being a problem-free, fully effective and focused receiver all of the 2016 season: 1 in 10.

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    Chances of Gordon being a problem-free, fully effective and focused receiver all of the 2016 season: 1 in 10.
    I'd have to give Gordon at least a 50/50 shot .

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    I'd have to give Gordon at least a 50/50 shot .
    That may be fair. But just think back to last year: The Browns stuck by the guy and after he came back he was lackadaisical in practice and games after Atlanta the rest of the season. I think Gordon is a walking ticking time bomb. And he'd be gone after the 2016 season anyhow.

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    Chances of Gordon being a problem-free, fully effective and focused receiver all of the 2016 season: 1 in 10.
    That's why I draft a no. one receiver, Gordon has failed (drug tests) everywhere he's been. He could want to prove to critics that he is an elite receiver, but his track record says he'll screw up.

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    That's why I draft a no. one receiver, Gordon has failed (drug tests) everywhere he's been. He could want to prove to critics that he is an elite receiver, but his track record says he'll screw up.
    One key to fixing the Browns is to give opportunity's to players who earn them. Exactly how many chances has Gordon had by now?

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