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The State of the Cavs

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I wanna talk about this team! I actually have a fascination with these kinds of builds by small market teams, doing it the old fashioned way. Milwaukee and Portland come to mind but the truth is... the Warriors were built by the draft and won a championship with almost all drafted players.

I think the Cavs are building a great nest for a star wing, plain and simple. Literally one piece, not a huge overhaul. I personally would like them to be a little less trade-ey than I think they'll be this season, moving players for picks. I think letting Henson, Knight, and especially Clarkson walk would be foolish.

The latter is right on the verge of being Lou Williams and ain't nobody wants to trade that guy. Clarkson had a career high 17 off the bench last season and is working tirelessly to go to the next level (mostly on catch-and-shoot)... and the next level is 18-20 ppg and that's Lou. You want that guy on your contending team.

Henson is a stretch 5 and rim protector; Knight was the star that never happened but now he's finally healthy... and looking like a star.

Looks like we'll start Garland, Sexton, Love, Tristan, and Cedi. I've read over and over that the coach and team just love Dylan Windler, feel like they stole him, took him ahead of Porter... and everybody in the NBA seemed to know the Cavs were gonna take porter.

The key bench guys will be Nance, Clarkson, Knight, and Windler (when healthy). Porter could get in there while Windler's hurt. I left out Australian Whatsisname Fokhero Dude because I think it's ridiculous to put him above Knight but that seems to be the case. Zizic is dinged but he'll be in that mix as well.

Here's what I would do: I'd plan to keep Garland, Sexton, Love, Cedi, Nance, Clarkson, Knight, Windler, Zizic, Henson, and Porter for 2020. Then I'd draft my elite wing/3 in the top 5. If we could get to 1 or 2, hey, that's ideal.

I think that team could win a lot of games.
 
The fun starts tomorrow I believe. I'm waiting for Jay to do the honors for the 2019-2020 season.

A #7 or #8 seed would be nice. Want to see some good foundations going forward this year. Am interested to see how the new coach plays out
 
I was waiting for MMW to do the honors!!

He's the resident NBA expert and I'm not all that interested in watching my teams lose over and over anymore.
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I dunno about the Cavs. I'm oddly unplugged from this coming NBA season, but not having cable will do that I suppose. I wish I shared your optimism for the team, but I think (health abiding) they should improve upon 19 wins but how much? I feel like 30-35 is the sweet spot but injuries could tank that quickly.

I'd like to see some growth from our young players and somebody step up in to consistent production territory. As it stands, I don't know what could happen with this team but I just can't shake the feeling they'll underachieve.
 
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2-2.

When did the Cavs win their second game last year? lol!

Won't expect that from Thompson every night but if he produces like that, we're probably going to be in good shape. Kevin Love had a very good game as well. 10/10 would've probably found a reason to lose this game, last season.

Raptors with a big win over the Pistons. The two new FA signings, still riding the bench after being called out by Coach Nurse in the pre-season.

The Grizz, 1-3, similar position to the Cavs overall, will be stifled by terrible coaching this year. I fully expect them to fire this guy before the end of the season... knee-jerk at best but the Grizzlies have just been a revolving door at Coach since firing Lionel Hollins (man I miss him).
 
I think Beilein is doing a good job early coaching this team. TT is being used on the offensive side as a distributor. Beilein believes TT is a really good passer and can help facilitate play sets and get mismatches going for others. As the season goes on teams will figure out how they want to defend us, but we got some early mo' going.
 
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I like Beilein so far at least in terms of personality. Not really a big college basketball fan so I didn't know what to make of him at the initial hire. Looks like he's certainly paid his dues though to get where he's at. Starting coaching at a community college and made it to the pros in his 60s.

2-3 now. If they want to think of themselves as a playoff team though the Pacers game last night are the type of games the team needs to learn too win
 
2023

You guys know why I have not posted. if you can't say ...etc

But anyway they don't need to win games and they won't. if they get 21 maybe.
we need a Great player. not hard to understand. drafting is our only way. so we wait.
Love should go. who can take that cap hit ?? 3 more years but you never know a cap wizard and we eat a poor player 1 or 2 years.. might happen

If we get that Great player in the next 2 drafts .... playoffs in 2023. for sure
 
[FONT=&quot]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cavs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cavs</a> rookie Kevin Porter Jr. was suspended one game for bumping into the official. Here’s the video <a href="https://t.co/JawZUzNv5m">pic.twitter.com/JawZUzNv5m</a></p>— James Rapien (@JamesRapien) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesRapien/status/1191515042598051845?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/FONT]​
 
 
I saw first road win of the year last night in D.C.

Lol more wins than the Brownies. Perhaps a trust the process Philly Sixers style for 2023 as MMW alludes. Build the foundation for now
 
Just SO damn much to like and we haven't even seen Beilein's beloved Dylan Windler! That's coming up next week.

- They look like a well-coached team with quite a bit of young talent getting the benefit of a no assholes policy. Veterans are all good guys (Love, Tristan, Clarkson, Nance).

- Of the youngsters (Sexton, Cedi, Garland, Porter), not one has been a disappointment. Sure, Garland struggled for a hot minute but he's the sure thing so whatever, elite talent like his will rise and it showed last night.

Porter is the one getting players around the league to pay attention, the super talent. The joy is that he looks not at all lost and can continue to play... and that might add up to a guy who can seriously get buckets.

Then Windler. And Cedi is one of those weird +/- "glue guys" who put up 12/4/5 but +22 every damn night. That's why they extended him but at a fair price. The ball moves, the team wins, and nobody quite knows what he's doing it but please continue.

- If we can get something for the very talented, now healthy, and well liked Brandon Knight, that's absolutely perfect. Move Henson and get Zizic back, he could be part of the big picture too. But I hope we can retain Love, Thompson, Clarkson, and Nance along with Zizic, Sexton, Garland, Windler, Cedi, and Porter.

Having said that? It's 10 guys and no backup PG so I'm in a fantasy world. Plus we'll be making a nest for a star... but if we win 30 or 33 games, it might not happen in the draft. Gets a little harder.
 
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