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Browns Todd Monken is the new HC

NDneighbor said:
Now we get to see if he's going to be a Stefanski carbon copy.
Who's going to hold the Denny's menu?
And who's going to sort out the QB room?
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A carbon copy? Tell me you know absolutely nothing about Monken without telling me you know absolutely nothing about Monken.

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King of Kings said:
Schwartz is out, so there goes our Defense. Word is Ventrone is also out and looking for a spot elsewhere.
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I'm pretty sure there were 14 playoff teams with good defenses and Schwartz wasn't the DC of any of them.

Schwartz is under contract for 2 more years and not officially gone. But if he is... there are plenty of really good DC's out there capable of leading our talent.
 
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The Haymaker said:
we are going to lose.
a rookie HC now to go with our rookie QB(c'mon man) and our now headless D?
we go from KS to hot toddy? 2 time NFL COTY to I've never done this before?
the browns draft good players.we hire good staff.what we do is we let them walk away..
remember this D before jimmy S? hes going to go win a SB.
If you think we have a winning season this year you are out cho mind.

NEW-just saw the jimmy post where he was visibly upset.visibly upset!he was fu^king crying?
Im now VISIBLY UPSET TOO! this is a major major mistake.
you let jimmy run it for a year at his age you give him a shot and start looking to 2027
you dont hire a rookie HC over this man.
MG may walk..todd should have been the OC.no brainer.

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This is the typical "I know nothing about Monken" response.

Our fans truly are hilariously bad at this.
 
It's too simple to do. When your offense is compromised by suspect QB play, run the ball.

Also, an inexperienced OLine is better learning to run the ball first. We saw that when Callahan was here. When the run game clicks the passing game will follow as well as the QB play.
 
We still haven't seen much regarding what Monken prefers for coordinating the Browns D.
The same D that finished 14th in points allowed in the current season.
Honestly, I think it's time for Browns fans to finally remember what matters when the game clock counts down to zero.
If Monken wants Schwartz to run the D then he'll reach out to the guy and sit down and talk with him.
It's not surprising Schwartz is upset. Part of that is the way the Browns conducted their search.
It probably is time for Schwartz to move on and it probably is time for Myles to remember that points allowed is what matters.
I'll be as happy as any one if Monken and Schwartz come to terms and the D can continue with Schwartz.
I think Monken will expect his DC to do a better job of limiting points allowed.
It's time for Browns fans to realize that having a sack leader is not what it's about.
It might be time to trade Myles while his current value is as high as it ever will be.
It really looks like the Browns are turning the page.
They'll probably move on with out Schwartz and probably will let go of Garrett if they get the right offer.
Change is difficult. It pushes people out of their comfort zone.
Some times it has to happen for growth.
 
jaydog said:
It's too simple to do. When your offense is compromised by suspect QB play, run the ball.

Also, an inexperienced OLine is better learning to run the ball first. We saw that when Callahan was here. When the run game clicks the passing game will follow as well as the QB play.
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Only, it's not that simple at all. When your offense is comprised of suspect QB play, defenses play LB's and safeties closer to the DL and make it very difficult to run the ball.. forcing your suspect QB to throw the ball.
 

What I’m hearing about why the Browns hired Todd Monken. What about Jim Schwartz? – Terry Pluto​


(Decent stuff here. Thought I’d do a mega copy/paste)

By
Ravens Camp Football
Over the last three seasons, Baltimore ranked No. 3 in the NFL in points per game with Todd Monken as offensive coordinator. Nick Wass, AP

CLEVELAND, Ohio — What I heard about the Browns’ decision to hire Todd Monken as head coach.

1. The final three candidates were Nate Scheelhaase, Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and Monken. In the end, Monken prevailed because of the Browns desperately need to revive the offense. The Browns had an 8-26 record in the last two seasons. They averaged 16 points per game, fewest in the NFL in that span. They ranked 29th out of 32 teams in total yards.

2. Before dealing with Monken, let’s look at Scheelhaase. He was impressive in interviews and had excellent references. The question hanging over his candidacy was “Did the Browns want to hand over the team to a 35-year-old who has only two years of NFL experience?” He was passing game coordinator for the Rams. With the Rams, head coach Sean McVay called the plays. Offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur also was ahead of Scheelhaase in terms of position on the coaching staff.

3. The Browns believe Scheelhaase has the right stuff to eventually be a head coach. They consider him “an elite leader with a knack of connecting with people.” Before coming to the NFL in 2024, Scheelhaase was an assistant at Iowa State. He became an offensive coordinator in 2023, and that was the only year he called plays. Given the challenges of the Browns’ situation, the team thought Scheelhaase needed more experience in the NFL before becoming a head coach.

4. Schwartz is 59. He is one of the NFL’s premier defensive coordinators. He has longed for another shot at being a head coach. He had that job with Detroit from 2009-13. He had to believe Cleveland may have been his chance at another head coaching position. I heard he was “heartbroken” when Monken was chosen. Schwartz did interview with Baltimore, but it was a first-round Zoom call. The Ravens didn’t seem that serious about his candidacy.

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Jim Schwartz is under contract for two more years as the Browns defensive coordinator.John Kuntz, cleveland.com

5. The Browns picked Monken over Schwarz because Monken’s strength lined up with the team’s weakness – offense. Monken was well-prepared with what the team considered innovative ideas about the offense. Schwartz is a defensive guy. In this search, the focus was finding a “demanding leader” who was strong on offense.

6. The Browns are going to wait a while before talking to Schwartz about returning. They believe this is a little like the Myles Garrett situation, where the star defensive end demanded to be traded and vowed never to play for the team again. He eventually signed a long-term contract to stay with the Browns.

7. The Browns know Schwartz was “very hurt” by the decision. That’s understandable. He believed he was the right man for the job because of his connection with the players and knowledge of the organization. That’s also why the Browns want him back, along with his skill as a defensive coordinator. Right now is a “cooling off” period.

8. This is just my guess, but it’s very possible the Browns can offer him a longer deal with a raise. He is under contract for two more seasons. Monken has indicated he wants Schwartz to run the defense. The two men never were on the same coaching staff and don’t know each other that well.

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Todd Monken was wanted by new Giants coach John Harbaugh to be his offensive coordinator in New York. (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

9. When the final three candidates emerged, I wondered if the plan was for Schwartz to be the head coach and Monken the offensive coordinator. But Monken was going to go to the Giants as the offensive coordinator for John Harbaugh. The former Ravens coach was holding the job open for him.

10. Some fans have acted as if Monken came out of nowhere and has never been considered for a head coaching position. He interviewed for the L.A. Chargers job in 2024. Jim Harbaugh was hired. In 2025, he interviewed for the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville openings. His first interview for a head coaching spot was with Green Bay in 2019. Matt LaFleur was hired. That led to Monken taking an offensive coordinator job with the Browns in 2019 under Freddie Kitchens.

11. From 2020-22, Monken coached a high-powered offense at Georgia. His initial salary was $1 million a year. By 2022, he was making $2 million a year – believed to be the highest paid assistant coach in college football. His QB in the two Georgia title seasons was Stetson Bennett, a former 5-foot-11 walk-on. Bennett mostly passed from the pocket and was more of a pro-style QB. He has been a backup with the Rams but has yet to play in a regular season game.

12. The Browns believe Monken can coach almost any style of offense. In 2011, Monken became the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State when Brandon Weeden was a senior. They ran an “Air Raid” style offense, very wide open. That led to Weeden being a first-round pick of the Browns in 2012 at the age of 28.

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Todd Monken helped Georgia win two national titles. AP

13. Monken was the offensive coordinator for three years in Tampa Bay with Jameis Winston. He also was offensive coordinator for three years with Baltimore and Lamar Jackson.

14. The point is, Monken is not married to any style. Jackson is a running-style QB whose passing improved with Monken. Winston threw from the pocket, a classic pro-style QB. Weeden was always in the shotgun.

15. In his last season (2015) as head coach at Southern Mississippi, Monken used a spread offense. His QB was Nick Mullens. Southern Mississippi averaged 510 yards per game and 40 points. Southern Mississippi was 0-12 before Monken was hired in 2013. By 2015, the team had a 9-5 record. Then Monken left for Tampa Bay to be the offensive coordinator.

16. In his three seasons (2022-25) calling plays for Baltimore, the Ravens ranked No. 1 in rushing yards, No. 2 in total yards and No. 3 in points per game. In the two years before Monken arrived, Baltimore’s offense ranked 19th and 17th in points. Jackson had three of his top four QB ratings in his three years with Monken. The non-Monken best was in 2019.

17. The Browns compare the 59-year-old Monken to Bruce Arians, who didn’t become an NFL head coach until he was 60. He had been a long-time offensive coordinator, including a stop with the Browns (2001-03). Earlier in his career, Arians’ only head coaching experience was at Temple University before being hired as an interim coach with the Colts. Arians was a head coach with 12 games in 2012. He then was the head coach at Arizona (2013-17) and Tampa Bay (2019-21). He won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady and had an overall 49-30 record.

18. Is Monken the next Arians? Who knows? But the fact that he’s had a lot of experience winning with a variety of QBs should be considered an asset – not a negative because of his age. He is an old-school coach in terms of discipline, but very innovative when it comes to strategy. He also came up with an overall plan for the Browns, not just offense. That led to him emerging as the leader the more the Browns researched his background.
 
The_QCT said:
Only, it's not that simple at all. When your offense is comprised of suspect QB play, defenses play LB's and safeties closer to the DL and make it very difficult to run the ball.. forcing your suspect QB to throw the ball.
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Yes that's true. But it can be schemed for these different formations and not getting into the X's and O's too much but off the rip there's zone blocking, or spread them out in 11 personnel and toss it for example.

With suspect QB play running the ball is not going to have a traditional look. Same for the pass game.

Monken at least seems creative
 
jaydog said:
Yes that's true. But it can be schemed for these different formations and not getting into the X's and O's too much but off the rip there's zone blocking, or spread them out in 11 personnel and toss it for example.

With suspect QB play running the ball is not going to have a traditional look. Same for the pass game.

Monken at least seems creative
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You realize that this play has zero to do with suspect QB play, right?

And, without getting into too much X's and O's, the blocking scheme doesn't help when the defense loads the box because they aren't scared of the pass.
 
I do note this as you saw too but it's what I pulled down from a Monken NFL offense and I'm too lazy to go down a Monken rabbit hole of God knows how many videos to split hairs about X's & O's because of Jackson. The point is he handed the ball off in a 8 man box.
 
jaydog said:
I do note this as you saw too but it's what I pulled down from a Monken NFL offense and I'm too lazy to go down a Monken rabbit hole of God knows how many videos to split hairs about X's & O's because of Jackson. The point is he handed the ball off in a 8 man box.
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Dude, just ignore that faggot. He's a fucking clown who doesn't know shit about football, buried DeRapist Watsons cock down his throat and only comes on here periodically to try and jerk himself off over his non existent NFL knowledge.
 
“But Monken threw Harbaugh and the Giants a curveball this week when he accepted the head coaching job with the Cleveland Browns, leaving the Giants in a lurch to pore over a very weak candidate pool.”

"I tried to talk him out of it," Harbaugh told NJ Advance Media. "…but we’ve got to go to work."

“The work won't be easy. The candidate pool is less than eye-popping.”

 
OconRecon said:

What I’m hearing about why the Browns hired Todd Monken. What about Jim Schwartz? – Terry Pluto​


(Decent stuff here. Thought I’d do a mega copy/paste)

By
Ravens Camp Football
Over the last three seasons, Baltimore ranked No. 3 in the NFL in points per game with Todd Monken as offensive coordinator. Nick Wass, AP

CLEVELAND, Ohio — What I heard about the Browns’ decision to hire Todd Monken as head coach.

1. The final three candidates were Nate Scheelhaase, Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and Monken. In the end, Monken prevailed because of the Browns desperately need to revive the offense. The Browns had an 8-26 record in the last two seasons. They averaged 16 points per game, fewest in the NFL in that span. They ranked 29th out of 32 teams in total yards.

2. Before dealing with Monken, let’s look at Scheelhaase. He was impressive in interviews and had excellent references. The question hanging over his candidacy was “Did the Browns want to hand over the team to a 35-year-old who has only two years of NFL experience?” He was passing game coordinator for the Rams. With the Rams, head coach Sean McVay called the plays. Offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur also was ahead of Scheelhaase in terms of position on the coaching staff.

3. The Browns believe Scheelhaase has the right stuff to eventually be a head coach. They consider him “an elite leader with a knack of connecting with people.” Before coming to the NFL in 2024, Scheelhaase was an assistant at Iowa State. He became an offensive coordinator in 2023, and that was the only year he called plays. Given the challenges of the Browns’ situation, the team thought Scheelhaase needed more experience in the NFL before becoming a head coach.

4. Schwartz is 59. He is one of the NFL’s premier defensive coordinators. He has longed for another shot at being a head coach. He had that job with Detroit from 2009-13. He had to believe Cleveland may have been his chance at another head coaching position. I heard he was “heartbroken” when Monken was chosen. Schwartz did interview with Baltimore, but it was a first-round Zoom call. The Ravens didn’t seem that serious about his candidacy.

First day of Cleveland Browns rookie minicamp in Berea
Jim Schwartz is under contract for two more years as the Browns defensive coordinator.John Kuntz, cleveland.com

5. The Browns picked Monken over Schwarz because Monken’s strength lined up with the team’s weakness – offense. Monken was well-prepared with what the team considered innovative ideas about the offense. Schwartz is a defensive guy. In this search, the focus was finding a “demanding leader” who was strong on offense.

6. The Browns are going to wait a while before talking to Schwartz about returning. They believe this is a little like the Myles Garrett situation, where the star defensive end demanded to be traded and vowed never to play for the team again. He eventually signed a long-term contract to stay with the Browns.

7. The Browns know Schwartz was “very hurt” by the decision. That’s understandable. He believed he was the right man for the job because of his connection with the players and knowledge of the organization. That’s also why the Browns want him back, along with his skill as a defensive coordinator. Right now is a “cooling off” period.

8. This is just my guess, but it’s very possible the Browns can offer him a longer deal with a raise. He is under contract for two more seasons. Monken has indicated he wants Schwartz to run the defense. The two men never were on the same coaching staff and don’t know each other that well.

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Todd Monken was wanted by new Giants coach John Harbaugh to be his offensive coordinator in New York. (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

9. When the final three candidates emerged, I wondered if the plan was for Schwartz to be the head coach and Monken the offensive coordinator. But Monken was going to go to the Giants as the offensive coordinator for John Harbaugh. The former Ravens coach was holding the job open for him.

10. Some fans have acted as if Monken came out of nowhere and has never been considered for a head coaching position. He interviewed for the L.A. Chargers job in 2024. Jim Harbaugh was hired. In 2025, he interviewed for the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville openings. His first interview for a head coaching spot was with Green Bay in 2019. Matt LaFleur was hired. That led to Monken taking an offensive coordinator job with the Browns in 2019 under Freddie Kitchens.

11. From 2020-22, Monken coached a high-powered offense at Georgia. His initial salary was $1 million a year. By 2022, he was making $2 million a year – believed to be the highest paid assistant coach in college football. His QB in the two Georgia title seasons was Stetson Bennett, a former 5-foot-11 walk-on. Bennett mostly passed from the pocket and was more of a pro-style QB. He has been a backup with the Rams but has yet to play in a regular season game.

12. The Browns believe Monken can coach almost any style of offense. In 2011, Monken became the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State when Brandon Weeden was a senior. They ran an “Air Raid” style offense, very wide open. That led to Weeden being a first-round pick of the Browns in 2012 at the age of 28.

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Todd Monken helped Georgia win two national titles. AP

13. Monken was the offensive coordinator for three years in Tampa Bay with Jameis Winston. He also was offensive coordinator for three years with Baltimore and Lamar Jackson.

14. The point is, Monken is not married to any style. Jackson is a running-style QB whose passing improved with Monken. Winston threw from the pocket, a classic pro-style QB. Weeden was always in the shotgun.

15. In his last season (2015) as head coach at Southern Mississippi, Monken used a spread offense. His QB was Nick Mullens. Southern Mississippi averaged 510 yards per game and 40 points. Southern Mississippi was 0-12 before Monken was hired in 2013. By 2015, the team had a 9-5 record. Then Monken left for Tampa Bay to be the offensive coordinator.

16. In his three seasons (2022-25) calling plays for Baltimore, the Ravens ranked No. 1 in rushing yards, No. 2 in total yards and No. 3 in points per game. In the two years before Monken arrived, Baltimore’s offense ranked 19th and 17th in points. Jackson had three of his top four QB ratings in his three years with Monken. The non-Monken best was in 2019.

17. The Browns compare the 59-year-old Monken to Bruce Arians, who didn’t become an NFL head coach until he was 60. He had been a long-time offensive coordinator, including a stop with the Browns (2001-03). Earlier in his career, Arians’ only head coaching experience was at Temple University before being hired as an interim coach with the Colts. Arians was a head coach with 12 games in 2012. He then was the head coach at Arizona (2013-17) and Tampa Bay (2019-21). He won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady and had an overall 49-30 record.

18. Is Monken the next Arians? Who knows? But the fact that he’s had a lot of experience winning with a variety of QBs should be considered an asset – not a negative because of his age. He is an old-school coach in terms of discipline, but very innovative when it comes to strategy. He also came up with an overall plan for the Browns, not just offense. That led to him emerging as the leader the more the Browns researched his background.
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Does Terry have Any sources these days ?
Moreover does anyone in the media back there ?

Ask yourself this and prove you are right take 6-12 months to check it out. just saying

I remember 30+ years ago when Terry had tons of inside info he passed on weekly. that was then.
 
A couple of things:

1) I love poaching the Baltimore offensive staff. They are a well run organization who is consistently successful. Bringing in those coaches with a winning mentality will be huge for the culture in Cleveland.

2) These coaches following Monken instead of Harbaugh says a TON.

3) These coaches all know the AFC North. They know the Steelers, the Bengals... and of course Baltimore. There is familiarity there that will help Cleveland moving forward.
 
They’re in the top 5 in literally every statical offensive category over the last 3 (Monken) years.

And for Monken, that’s on the coattails of back-to-back UGA natties with 5’11” Stetson Bennett at the helm.

5 years in a row of insane production for him, so, whoever he deems important, I’m happy to get.

Monken has had multiple 100% legit HC interviews in the last few years. He didn’t throw a tantrum when not selected, he just went back to work.
 
I was pissed at the initial hire because I didn't know much about Monken other than he was OC in Baltimore and had some good years with Jackson.

I've read up on him and I've come around on the hire. It seems they got what they (Berry and Haslam) wanted. Offensive minded and an experienced coach.
 
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