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Seemed pretty clear throughout preseason that "testing" downfield will happen a lot. Brady used to say he was gonna take 4-5 deep shots no matter what, maybe more, because you have to show that off to get the safeties back. RG3 has a big arm and we have plenty of get-deep guys... so we have to fire that weapon.
 
Shep said:
Seemed pretty clear throughout preseason that "testing" downfield will happen a lot. Brady used to say he was gonna take 4-5 deep shots no matter what, maybe more, because you have to show that off to get the safeties back. RG3 has a big arm and we have plenty of get-deep guys... so we have to fire that weapon.
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I would be disappointed if we didn't take our shots.. This team has absolutely "NOTHING" to LOSE!
 
The right side of our line. Woof. Can we just clone Bitonio? Still love that guy.

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What that doesn't show is not one of those tight ends came open. Not one. That pissed me off. If you're going to roll those fucking idiot sets, and nobody gets open, you gotta change shit.

I thought for sure we were going to stack up on the receivers. Just constant 3/4 wide, leaving secondaries uneasy as we can throw deep or take the short. Same with a RB in the backfield - are we running? Is he blocking? Is he going to run out in the flat? As I fucking write this, Bills just beat Revis for an 84 yard touchdown by doing the EXACT same thing. Three wide, RB in the backfield, TE lined up just outside the shoulder. Guy like Goodwin, Revis uneasy about a comeback or deep, and he guessed wrong. So much dedicated to coverage (6) that the pass rush couldn't get there and Goodwin (One of three) runs onto the deep ball for an easy score.

Instead, we've got RG3 alone in the backfield and three tight ends, Obviously, you're going to keep those tight ends in front of you but play it short because it's a pass play. Right side gets blown up, never had a fucking chance. All those tight ends do is allow Joe Thomas to be met with speed, so much so that even the GOAT struggles to run dude off the fucking mark.

Just. fucking. devastating. That isn't a fucking NFL play. You bring that shit over here and we can read it like a fucking book, the fuck was Hue thinking an NFL team was going to do against it?

Pasztor really struggled. Man, I do NOT understand how both Coleman and Drango had really strong preseasons, but we're converting a UDFA G to RT? The Jags tried to use him at RT, he sucked and they released him.

Cut the shit. You drafted Coleman in the damn 3rd round, plug the kid in and see what he can do. Worst case, he struggles, we get the same level of play but we're also getting a very, very talented young man some experience.
 
brownsdownunder said:
What that doesn't show is not one of those tight ends came open. Not one. That pissed me off. If you're going to roll those fucking idiot sets, and nobody gets open, you gotta change shit.

I thought for sure we were going to stack up on the receivers. Just constant 3/4 wide, leaving secondaries uneasy as we can throw deep or take the short. Same with a RB in the backfield - are we running? Is he blocking? Is he going to run out in the flat? As I fucking write this, Bills just beat Revis for an 84 yard touchdown by doing the EXACT same thing. Three wide, RB in the backfield, TE lined up just outside the shoulder. Guy like Goodwin, Revis uneasy about a comeback or deep, and he guessed wrong. So much dedicated to coverage (6) that the pass rush couldn't get there and Goodwin (One of three) runs onto the deep ball for an easy score.

Instead, we've got RG3 alone in the backfield and three tight ends, Obviously, you're going to keep those tight ends in front of you but play it short because it's a pass play. Right side gets blown up, never had a fucking chance. All those tight ends do is allow Joe Thomas to be met with speed, so much so that even the GOAT struggles to run dude off the fucking mark.

Just. fucking. devastating. That isn't a fucking NFL play. You bring that shit over here and we can read it like a fucking book, the fuck was Hue thinking an NFL team was going to do against it?

Pasztor really struggled. Man, I do NOT understand how both Coleman and Drango had really strong preseasons, but we're converting a UDFA G to RT? The Jags tried to use him at RT, he sucked and they released him.

Cut the shit. You drafted Coleman in the damn 3rd round, plug the kid in and see what he can do. Worst case, he struggles, we get the same level of play but we're also getting a very, very talented young man some experience.
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Again Rome wasn't built in a day. I fully expect Coleman to take over RT in the next few weeks but I think the team wanted to put "some" experience on the field, whether it worked or not. You can put all the rookies out on the field game 1 but the titanic may sink as a team. I think the goal was to gradually bring them in some the moment wasn't too big - especially Coleman coming off the knee.

1. Expect Coleman at RT midseason
2. Expect Drango at LT if JT gets traded
3. Expect Hollywood/Payton to takeover for Hawk by bye week
4. Expect Kessler to suck... this year. (Hogan too)...
5. Expect RG3 to take meaningful snaps again this year (after 8 game vacation)
 
Same principle as Hawkins - Pasztor was a turnstile, if he keeps it up, a rookie can't be worse. Replacing proven mediocrity with rookies who are going to get better is, in my mind, an absolute positive. Fuck it.

What drills me is we threw Kindred in, and he was excellent. We threw Ogbah and Nassib in, and they were excellent. We threw Schobert in, and he was frankly better than Orchard. What message does it send to the other rookies if the veterans ahead of them are allowed to play like total shit while our guys ride the pine?

Doesn't make sense to me. I vote next man up. The entire principle of easing a rookie in is because you want solid veteran play while the kids develop - but we're not getting solid veteran play, so it's ultimately redundant.

I like Pazstor just fine. Just not at RT. He's a guard, he's always been a guard, and his experiment at RT has never not been a disaster.
 
I like Drango's feet better than Coleman's. Coleman looks slow footed to me.

Having said that, Pasztor was ranked 79th of 81 offensive tackles who took snaps in week 1.

79 of 81 - yeah, I'd say it's time to give the rooks some snaps. Maybe not the starting job, but at least some snaps.
 
I'm not in favor of "platooning" anywhere on the Oline. Pick a guy and roll with him.

I say Drango right now at RT and move Pasztor to RG with Greco at Center. Subject to change without notice. ;)

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BTW I just heard Scam has a bruised lung.
 
DawgFan said:
Yes, he made some mistakes
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At a chronic rate. 2 huge ones in this game alone. He's two for two in terms of making game changing mistakes in football games while playing fucking CENTER. Its beyond, "He's made some mistakes". It just sends the wrong damn message to the rest of the guys who are doing their jobs while Cam continues to fuck his up in epic ways.
 
jaydog said:
CrazyDawgFan likes some terrible players. Get used to it.
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I realize that Cam is a work in progress...hell, HUE says it. I just hate the fact that the Browns seem to cut bait long before a player has a chance to realize their potential. Cam pisses me off as much as you guys...but while he is raw as hell, he also has some crazy athleticism and if he ever gets it could be a real stud. Again...assuming he ever gets it.
 
DawgFan said:
I realize that Cam is a work in progress...hell, HUE says it. I just hate the fact that the Browns seem to cut bait long before a player has a chance to realize their potential. Cam pisses me off as much as you guys...but while he is raw as hell, he also has some crazy athleticism and if he ever gets it could be a real stud. Again...assuming he ever gets it.
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It's one thing to make rookie mistakes, it's another to get your QB killed over and over again. I'm not saying give up on him but maybe a few weeks off to get his head straight will do him good.
 
jaydog said:
You really want them? Don't trust what you see?
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Honestly...I have seen very little. I don't have Direct TV, and live in Naples FL...so the only game I have seen was preseason against Tampa. (oh, and I have a toddler so bar watching is out too). Most of what I get are via vids and live radio broadcast (and they haven't been nearly as hard on Cam as everyone here). Hard to see who the culprits are...so yeah...I would LOVE to see them.
 
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