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The DePodesta manifesto

Yep. Every 2 years like clockwork......Haslam is incompetent as an owner. He keeps proving it. You can't make this shit up and y'all are polishing a turd that is this front office. Haslams credibility as nonexistent as it was, is irrelevant now. The only guys he will be able to hire now are wannabees. That's all that's in this front office including the new head coach.......
 
Pretty sure white knight John Dorsey also tanked our Browns too. So far, haven’t seen anyone fix them since 1999. I’m not a Sashi fan but I’m also not naive enough to compare a team actively tanking to a GM with a puppet HC actively trying to win and sinking a season. As far as I’m concerned ... all your Browns saviors have sucked equally bad and deserved to get canned.

Yeah, its tough stuff but hard to argue against.

Dorsey's fatal flaw was the Kitchens hiring. And for those who want to believe Dorsey was against it, I think he would have resigned if that had been the case. The guy is a known personnel evaluator, one of the better as no one has a perfect record. Thus his reputation would be worth more to him than taking a shot with a coach he knew to be doomed to failure.

No, the simplest and most likely explanation is that Dorsey was onboard or possibly even the prime mover behind the Kitchens hiring. It proved to be so inept as to leave Haslam with no choice but to take away Dorsey's power to make the next HC hire. Correctly in my view, Haslam sought to retain him for player personnel leadership; he declined and the rest is history.

Its been a mix of a lack of patience by ownership and a bunch of bad hires. Hard to parse between the two in all honesty. Is there a HOF head coach we've let go post Belichick? Doesn't seem so.
 
I liked Dorse as a pro/college scouting evaluator... but it's also hard not to argue that his best moves came under the guidance of Scot McCloughan too. Maybe we are giving too much credit?
 
Yeah, its tough stuff but hard to argue against.

Dorsey's fatal flaw was the Kitchens hiring. And for those who want to believe Dorsey was against it, I think he would have resigned if that had been the case. The guy is a known personnel evaluator, one of the better as no one has a perfect record. Thus his reputation would be worth more to him than taking a shot with a coach he knew to be doomed to failure.

No, the simplest and most likely explanation is that Dorsey was onboard or possibly even the prime mover behind the Kitchens hiring. It proved to be so inept as to leave Haslam with no choice but to take away Dorsey's power to make the next HC hire. Correctly in my view, Haslam sought to retain him for player personnel leadership; he declined and the rest is history.

Its been a mix of a lack of patience by ownership and a bunch of bad hires. Hard to parse between the two in all honesty. Is there a HOF head coach we've let go post Belichick? Doesn't seem so.


Much has been made of the terrible track record that Haslam has for hiring.

In eight years, his General Managers have been Tom Heckert, Michael Lombardi, Ray Farmer, Sashi Brown, John Dorsey and Andrew Berry.

In eight years, his head coaches have been Pat Shurmur, Rob Chudzinski, Mike Pettine, Hue Jackson, Greg Williams, Freddie Kitchens and Kevin Stefanski.

Obviously, giving him a grade north of F would seem absurd. However, I maintain that in some respects he deserves the benefit of the doubt. First, he inherited Tom Heckert and Pat Shurmur. Second, Joe Banner was forced on him by the league and it was Joe Banner who hired Michael Lombardi, Rob Chudzinski and Mike Pettine and fired Rob Chudzinski. So you can’t blame Haslam for any of those hirings or firings since either they were forced on him or done by others.

Furthermore, the firing of Joe Banner and Michael Lombardi were both richly deserved, so who could blame him for that?

The hiring of Ray Farmer was a panic move due to Haslam being in a difficult position. There was no need to replace Banner since Alec Scheiner was already in place, but Haslam obviously needed a GM after firing Lombardi. He didn’t have time to give any thought to a replacement for Lombardi, and Farmer was already on staff. In addition, there were rumors that someone was trying to hire Farmer away from him. So elevating Farmer in that circumstance was forgivable if unwise.

And, anyway, Farmer might actually have survived as a GM if Pettine hadn’t been such a dismal failure. By the end of Pettine’s second year, it was clear that a new beginning was indicated and he fired them both. However, note that Haslam was actually responsible only for Farmer since Pettine had been a Banner hire.

Starting with the new beginning in 2016, however, it is all on Haslam.

In only four years, his Haslam’s General Managers have been Sashi Brown, John Dorsey and Andrew Berry.

In four years, his head coaches have been Hue Jackson, Greg Williams (interim), Freddie Kitchens and Kevin Stefanski.

Okay, so it is still a miserable record, just not as bad as some would make it out to be. Now suppose he finally has got it right with Berry and Stefanski. Ten years from now, we will look back and say: "Hey, not so bad after all."
 
Weird how the last bits are all so interconnected. Sashi died for our sins to tee up Dorsey, while Berry went to study abroad for a year. I remember reading back then that the Haslams loved Berry and nobody would be shocked if paths crossed again. Explains why it was so well known that he was the frontrunner as soon as Dorsey was fired.

Williams was just an interim but both he and Freddie were part of Hue's staff. It's kinda-sorta like we just got out from under that mess. Oh, and Stefanski is connected by being the favorite over Freddie by several, including...

Berry. Of course.
 
Yep. Every 2 years like clockwork......Haslam is incompetent as an owner. He keeps proving it. You can't make this shit up and y'all are polishing a turd that is this front office. Haslams credibility as nonexistent as it was, is irrelevant now. The only guys he will be able to hire now are wannabees. That's all that's in this front office including the new head coach.......

That was already the case after he fired Chud after one year. The latest changes didn't now make CLE a less attractive option. It simply continued to reaffirm it is an unattractive option.
 
Just that guard rails sheet, EE. It's pretty contemporary classic for the current league. QB, LT, edge, and CB1 aren't Browns things, they're NFL things now. Pushed out to be a "perimeter league," about speed and playmaking, but several teams zagged and it worked.

And we're drawing up our blueprint based on a couple of those teams (mostly 49ers and Vikings). Balance on offense, rub it stubbornly (GONNA LEAVE THAT TYPO CUZ IT CRACKED ME UP), tee up play-action.
 
Step one, release expensive depth, a.k.a., first on the big laminated FO card.
#Browns #NFLdraft2020

So, away goes TJ and the funky bunch to increase our cap by 13 mil or so, giving us $58+ million to work with, that's currently 9th in the league (we were 17th a short time ago, but other teams will make cuts too).

BTW, I think this signals Vernon sticks. It's not a strong edge class, and an edge FA of Vernon's caliber will cost the same or more.

Oh, and other than maybe not in the first, be ready to trade back.

And does this indicate we'll get one of those safeties? Betting we go after them at least. Might be a little G-Rob money in there too.

A reminder below of other cornerstones (courtesy of @brentsobleski).



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I was merely ball busting before but here's some thoughts.

Why pay for depth when you can acquire it cheaply? I think this is a good thing to be frugal about. Leadership and toughness, good qualities to key in on especially when building a culture.

Red over a blue, to me sounds like don't take a risk. Pat McAfee had the Chargers GM on and I liked what he had to say about 'all options' being on the table, but when it comes to BPA vs Need, you need to take the better player based on what your scouts have determined. Trust the work people have put in and take the player who will make your team better. Keenan Allen in the third round was his example, they "had a lot of talent" in their WR room but took him anyway, injuries put him on the field and the rest was history.

Key positions don't surprise me. Gotta have a quality backup behind baker, doesn't hurt to draft someone if they're to be had either.

No leaks, lmao... maybe the most important thing on that whole sheet.
 
SO what is this manifesto exactly? lmao

The Manifesto is trust the laptop and spreadsheets over reality and fact. Build a competitive enough to sell tickets and merchandise while running a shoestring budget. The Bengals and Lions blueprint as opposed to the Patriots and Chiefs blueprint, in other words.
 
There's no timeline or anything at all to suggest that this document is none other than Dorsey's or Ernie Accorsi's so while it's informative, it's a basic outline of principles to team building.

It could belong to anybody.
 
There's no timeline or anything at all to suggest that this document is none other than Dorsey's or Ernie Accorsi's so while it's informative, it's a basic outline of principles to team building.

It could belong to anybody.

It seems unlikely that Dorsey would have quoted Depodesta as an ideal.
 
A year ago it was unlikely that Dorsey would be fired in favor of Depo. ;)

Holy shit whwn you say it in those terms it makes it THAT much more unbelievable. Fired a successful GM.for succeeding and brought back the indisputable, factually literal WORST front office in NFL history to return to "the suck."
 
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