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Browns Game Thread Browns at Eagles Oct. 13 @ 1:00 PM

We thought this was to be our year ?
I did.

I'm just not a coach killer. they don't get on the field it's players who must PLAY. this sport it's the QB period end of story. look at the Redskins this year. Watson looked like a good idea at the time, but now. he must get his shit together the rest of this year or he must go.
or just sit him now and play to lose/draft pick. maybe the latter is our best option.
 
jaydog said:
Meanwhile the guy they dumped in favor of AB has influenced the Lions organization in a hugely positive way and look like a SB contender.
That being John Dorsey who was let go because he wanted nothing to do with Depodesta and Haslem chose Depodesta. And subsequently chose AB, etc, etc.

Dorsey did have his problems as a GM, no doubt but they found a spot for him to excel. Senior Personnel Executive. That team is loaded now.
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I still like and think fondly of Dorsey. Yeah as you said he had his misses (most notably the Kitchens hire) but he was a good football guy/talent evaluator.

The thing is ironically if you look at Dorsey's academic background he had the same university degree as DePodesta in Economics. So this whole idea some have of him being The Buddy Boy meathead jock is off. I think he respects analytics but not the analytic freak show this organization became.

And yeah I've heard not sure how true this is Dorsey when presented DePodesta's playbook threw it directly in the trash. I would usually say that's a dick move but that sounded pretty hilarious. 😆
 
Chuck Brown said:
if you look at Dorsey's academic background he had the same university degree as DePodesta in Economics
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:ROFLMAO:
DePodesta has a degree in economics from Harvard (the university he attended in order to study economics).
Dorsey has a degree in economics from UConn (the university he attended in order to play football).

I often cook in a cast iron pan, so there's really no difference between me and Anthony Bourdain.

I love how 'round here it's somehow "too simplistic" to say Watson is performing dreadfully, and a key reason for the Browns' offensive suck, but it's not at all a reach to say that because Dorsey has some figurehead role in Detroit's front office, and they're having a good year, Dorsey must clearly be better than our front office. So much more speculation, so many more factors all at such greater degree of removal. . . and none of them plainly visible for all to see on the field right in front of us.

Not tryna be a dick or throw anyone's playbook in the trash. Just wanted to find a good spot to reiterate that Watson at QB is about the worst thing this team has going for it right now.
 
iMogwai85 said:
:ROFLMAO:
DePodesta has a degree in economics from Harvard (the university he attended in order to study economics).
Dorsey has a degree in economics from UConn (the university he attended in order to play football).

I often cook in a cast iron pan, so there's really no difference between me and Anthony Bourdain.

I love how 'round here it's somehow "too simplistic" to say Watson is performing dreadfully, and a key reason for the Browns' offensive suck, but it's not at all a reach to say that because Dorsey has some figurehead role in Detroit's front office, and they're having a good year, Dorsey must clearly be better than our front office. So much more speculation, so many more factors all at such greater degree of removal. . . and none of them plainly visible for all to see on the field right in front of us.

Not tryna be a dick or throw anyone's playbook in the trash. Just wanted to find a good spot to reiterate that Watson at QB is about the worst thing this team has going for it right now.
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Well today Uconn is ranked as a Top 100 University in the country


Even if that wasn't the case in Dorsey's day it seems a rather smug statement to make that DePodesta's degree is like that much more impressive than Dorsey's.
 
Chuck Brown said:
it seems a rather smug statement to make that DePodesta's degree is like that much more impressive than Dorsey's.
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IDK. I don't believe all econ (or, any other subject area) degree programs are equally rigorous. Would you argue that every NFL player that graduates with a degree in econ is on intellectual par with DePodesta? That's absurd to me. It's like saying someone who reps 200 pounds deadlifting is just as strong as someone who reps 500 pounds because they're both lifting weights.

Edit -- if we're bringing in USA Today rankings for colleges, surely that opens the door for bringing in Watson's QBR. Which last I checked clocked in at around 34th in the league. But after he lit the world on fire and threw for like 120 in his most recent half of football he might have jumped up to 32nd or so, tied with his other clemson bro Lawrence.
 
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Jameis "The Turnover Machine" Winston threw like 3? 4? 5? interceptions against the Ratbirds, but their defense dropped every one of those INTs. Despite all that, Winston had some really nice reads/throws that neither Watson nor DTR were able to capitalize on. Winston 'aint nobody's solution, but he got the job done against Baltimore, thanks to their defenders dropping every INT that he gift-wrapped to them. I hope he can keep up the good reads/throws and minimize the INT potential.

 
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