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Browns Offense shows (a little) progress

Syracuse said:
This is the reason women should be seen, but not heard. quickexit
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There is only one fool on the internet that thinks a "name change" and providing a false location is deceptive enough to come over here and be a misogynistic prick behind the anonymity of a message board.

You're welcome to keep posting *cough* Bruce Willis *cough* but I recommend contributing rather than trolling.
 
AdaM said:
DA's just warming the driver seat until 71% of the snaps are unattainable.

Been sayin it all along, watch it come true damnit!
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And I've said it before, the problem with that plan and theory is. "good" derrick is hiding out there. Even the largest DA haters have to admit, every once in a while that blind squirrel finds his acorn. And he'll likely find it the week before that 71% number hits, and then mangini is stuck.
 
kydawgfan said:
and giving the team some time to gel while also giving BQ some time to get hungry and to think about how important his next opportunity is...ITS HIS LAST..
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:agree: THIS is the ONLY rational reasoning I can see for why Quinn will ever see the field again as a Brown barring injury. I don't by the contract clause, I don't buy and other conspiracy theories than Lerner forced Mangini to start him. I think Mangini knew what he had in DA, and while that might give you a better chance to win in the short term, he thought BQ was a better long term prospect. So he started Quinn game 1. But Quinn looked so tentative and so inaccurate that mangini couldn't let this season slip away. And the whole offense looked bad. So he sat Quinn down in hopes that benching him will make Quinn realize that this really is his last shot.

Alternately I can see that while Mangini thought he saw somethign in Quinn in the preseason and started him over Anderson, that he saw enough in those three games to decide that what he saw in Quinn would not be enough to overcome the flaws Quinn showed in those three games.
 
golfer704u said:
And I've said it before, the problem with that plan and theory is. "good" derrick is hiding out there. Even the largest DA haters have to admit, every once in a while that blind squirrel finds his acorn. And he'll likely find it the week before that 71% number hits, and then mangini is stuck.
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I was thinking about this play/theory last night. If CLE wanted to make sure BQ didn't get that 70% snap escalator money, why would they have even named him the starter for opening day? It makes no sense. If they wanted to prevent the 70% thing, they could have trotted DA out there week 1. It's not like either guy really out shined the other in camp or preseason that much. It wouldn't have been a hard sell for EM if he had named DA as the starter coming out of preseason.

I really think EM and company have no clue when it comes to the QB position (or the offensive side of the ball).
 
Masters said:
I was thinking about this play/theory last night. If CLE wanted to make sure BQ didn't get that 70% snap escalator money, why would they have even named him the starter for opening day? It makes no sense. If they wanted to prevent the 70% thing, they could have trotted DA out there week 1. It's not like either guy really out shined the other in camp or preseason that much. It wouldn't have been a hard sell for EM if he had named DA as the starter coming out of preseason.

I really think EM and company have no clue when it comes to the QB position (or the offensive side of the ball).
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Well again. I am of the opinion that the 70% snap thing isn't at all part of the equations.

BUT IF I were to play devil's advocate. IF Mangini thinks Quinn is the better long term answer than DA, but that he wasn't "there" yet. Maybe he had more confidence in the over all offense and started Quinn hoping to let him grow into the position and wasn't at all worried about the contract. BUT THEN he saw how badly Quinn was playing and even that he was regressing instead of progressing. But he still sees those things in Quinn that he can develop (remember this is the guy that still thinks he can develop Ratliff), but that it's gonna take longer than he thought. It's THEN you COULD see Mangini making a cap decision. "I want to develop this kid, but you can't develop him when he's getting paid that much".

Again, I don't buy that as the truth. But I could see it happening.
 
Masters said:
14 QTRs later, it still looks bad cursin
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see my previous post though. again. if he truly wants to develop Quinn and believes the rest of the offense is part of the problem and is CAUSING Quinn to emphasize his bad habits... then Let DA take all the fans ire.

again....I don't buy any of this conspiracy thoery....I'm just good at it :p
 
golfer704u said:
"I want to develop this kid, but you can't develop him when he's getting paid that much".
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Following that line of thought...wtf are they thinking of DA? Are they thinking he's not worth 'developing' at all? Are they thinking he's reached his peak and is not going any higher? I know they can't change his contract now but how do you justify paying him the same as Tom Brady for significantly LESS of a performance?
 
hiwaygal said:
Following that line of thought...wtf are they thinking of DA? Are they thinking he's not worth 'developing' at all? Are they thinking he's reached his peak and is not going any higher? I know they can't change his contract now but how do you justify paying him the same as Tom Brady for significantly LESS of a performance?
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Mangini Justifies it by saying he didn't pay him that much. And I think EVERY coach thinks he can develop every player. I think Mangini may also think he can make DA better too.

BUt as for what he's getting paid. He can't change what DA is getting paid, he can affect what BQ would be paid.
 
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