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As the Dem's try to find their lane...... what should they do ?
Go all in on Bernie ? be the party of socialist ? take the L this time around. wait till 2024 when they can not worry about him. I guess

Or just rebel/tossed against him as they should have in 2015-16 ? or is it too late ? he was never a real Dem. they could now work with Trump help him get reelected. LOL...... he was always more of a old school Dem anyway. at this point the non-socialist still in the Dem party should just join the Rep's party. they will in few cycles anyway. or we become a 3 party country.
 
Dems should flush the party of dingbats like AOC, Shiff and Pelosi. They need to get as far away as possible from that whole scene.

Trump will do his 8 years(maybe 12) and the need for checks and balances will always be needed.

Dems need to stop trying to put dudes into women’s locker rooms and accept that bringing immigrants into the USA will only work if its legal and documented.

Actually there is a lot things the need to clean up, cause if they continue the current path the Democratic Party will never recover.
 
Where do you find this shit?
It’s as bad as the senate!
Yay you won!, what did America win?

We just made a mockery of our country and
over reached in every way and yet your
satisfied because your side won?

Nobody “hated” Trump (Hillary was just as bad)
he was elected under the fog of another countries
interference to win an election.
Dislike or hate stems from him being allowed to be
allowed to get away with abusing the powers of the
office he may or may not have been elected to
protect.
This is without a doubt a polarizing moment in our
nations history.
Twelve years?, I can see that why not FDR had four.
Age isn’t Trumps friend, he has had quite a few senior
moments in his first term, we’ll see....
 
Where do you find this shit?
It’s as bad as the senate!
Yay you won!, what did America win?

We just made a mockery of our country and
over reached in every way and yet your
satisfied because your side won?

Nobody “hated” Trump (Hillary was just as bad)
he was elected under the fog of another countries
interference to win an election.
Dislike or hate stems from him being allowed to be
allowed to get away with abusing the powers of the
office he may or may not have been elected to
protect.
This is without a doubt a polarizing moment in our
nations history.
Twelve years?, I can see that why not FDR had four.
Age isn’t Trumps friend, he has had quite a few senior
moments in his first term, we’ll see....

Hi Dan,

If you think nobody hated Trump, I have a bridge you might be interested in acquiring. (I have no doubt, for example, that people like Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler truly hate Trump and have shown it repeatedly.) I could provide additional names if those three do not satisfiy.

As for me being satisfied, I am not satisfied nor will I be satisfied until the truth comes out, and I think the majority of it is still hidden. It isn't just the details of Biden's involvement in Ukraine corruption, it is also minor details like who is Kevin Clinesmith and such like as well as who really hacked the DNC server. Sorry if I don't have a lot of confidence in the Crowdstrike analysis and the pronouncements of Clapper and Brennan.

As for abuse of power, I haven't seen any abuse of power by Trump. Instead, what I see is rampant abuse by the intelligence agencies, the state department and the Congress.
 
I might also mention that the truth about the DNC server may be closer to being revealed than one might think. There are people in this world who actually know what really happened and whatever happened may actually be revealed.

Julian Assange will likely be extradited later this year. According to Newsweek, his extradition hearing will start on February 24 at London's Woolwich Crown Court and will go on for about a week. Proceedings will pick up again on May 18 and last for another three weeks.

https://www.newsweek.com/wikileaks-...-extradition-case-doj-belmarsh-prison-1483814

He faces 18 charges in the U.S., including conspiring to hack into a Pentagon computer. If he is extradited, which seems likely, he will likely be given an opportunity to reveal all he knows about the server in exchange for a minimum sentence or, perhaps, even, his freedom. I would support that.

I understand, of course, that Clapper and Brennan might actually have been right that it was the Russians who hacked the server. Just because the Mueller report showed that there was no collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign and they were wrong about that doesn't necessarily mean that none of what they said was true, although I would tend to doubt anything they have said.

It is like this, Dan, I am sure that you sincerely believed that collusion actually existed and you were wrong. I accept that it is possible that I could similarly be wrong. Regardless of what it is, I want the truth.

Cheers.
 
I fear he doesn't know where it really came from. and he will also protect his source. thus fucked. unless Trump let's him go. next year

I would not rely on his testimony. I am sure that he would have to have extensive documentation to convince someone like Durham. But I think he and his organization will have it. It is documented that in the past, he worked directly with hackers even suggesting tools that they might use in gaining access to information to be published by Wikileaks.

I would hasten to admit, of course, that you might be right, but I think the truth will eventually come out--whatever it is. Sometimes conspiracy theories have basis in fact and sometimes they are simply wrong. Russian collusion was a conspiracy theory before it was debunked. The only difference is that the conspiracy aspect was perpetrated by our government intelligence agencies.

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I would mention that despite the denials by David Holmes in the House impeachment hearings, there is evidence to support the supposition that the so call Black Ledger was a fabrication. And according to an investigative article by John Solomon,

If true, Gates’ account means the two key pieces of documentary evidence used by the media and FBI to drive the now-debunked Russia collusion narrative — the Steele dossier and the black ledger — were at best uncorroborated and at worst disinformation.

https://justthenews.com/key-witness-told-team-mueller-russia-collusion-evidence-found.html

This is in marked contrast to the fact that the hacked DNC emails published by Wikileaks were authentic.

William Barr has indicated that by late spring or early summer, the Durham investigation should be concluding. I assume he means that it will conclude provided nothing significant is found. We shall see how that turns out.
 
Happy New Year Cliff!,

It’s an easy thing to sit behind a typewriter on the
web and smile as you post.
The Democrats are a sorry lot right now and Assange
Snowden and anyone like them should have a timeout
next to Manafort and Cohen and everyone else who has
fallen on the sword for Trump.
Don’t misunderstand me I’m not saying crimes are equal
they just all belong in prison.
Republicans have openly admitted Trumps guilt but voted
along party lines because like liberals, republicans like there
cushy jobs too.
Vindman is being attacked because any slight against trump
requires a nuclear response.
Trump has maneuvered himself into a very good place by
obstructing justice, Lying to congress and ignoring our own
intelligence community because he knew damn well what
Russia was up to and day one he lifted sanctions and invited
them into the WH with open arms.
Anyway the point is he says fake news,the system is rigged
just like our elections so if there truly rigged he can simply ignore
the 2020 results without acknowledging the count because the
system is rigged when he doesn’t get his way.

I have repeatedly said he will win 2020 as the Dems have nobody
who has the balls to take him on and still the perceived threat of
Biden made the Ukrainian shit show happen, Biden was never going to win
because he is a human gaff machine and Bernie is a slam dunk
with his mantra of get in line for your free shit socialism agenda.

There are no gimme’s in life if you want something in this country
working hard and sacrifice can get you what you need and I believe
in this principal.
Trump is a man with no honor or moral compass and has been proven
every other sentence from his mouth is a lie but then again all politicians
lie, so there’s that.
Let’s spend a minute on the economy,
Republicans ran this nation into the ground and killed thousands
of American troops for a dumbass war in Iraq.
The day W took office he wanted SSI to be put into the
stock market! thank god that didn’t happen...

Obama was handed a country that was completely broken both
financially and militarily.
So from what obama had to work with being on the “right track” wasn’t
close to what Trump was handed and our corporate masters have
run amuck with the free wheeling style of investing in themselves
and it doesn’t bother me it’s just the way things are, I get it.
Make no mistake we are not heading in any direction that matters
to everyday Americans.
My supermarket is cashier free,how about yours?
Self driving cars are more about transporting and
Employee free delivery of goods
 
Happy New Year Cliff!,

Happy New Year, Dan. Hope you are enjoying the new year.

I have decided to respond to your post as I come to it. We will see how it goes.

It’s an easy thing to sit behind a typewriter on the
web and smile as you post.

Not sure how you meant that. As for me, I will be happier when it gets a little warmer. Really hate the cold weather.

The Democrats are a sorry lot right now and Assange
Snowden and anyone like them should have a timeout
next to Manafort and Cohen and everyone else who has
fallen on the sword for Trump.
Don’t misunderstand me I’m not saying crimes are equal
they just all belong in prison.

I am really not that interested in seeing more people go to prison regardless of what side they are on. I personally think that too many people have gone to prison already for no good reason. If someone poses a threat to society, I want them in prison, otherwise, forget it. But I do want the truth. I want the truth about the wistleblower; I want the truth about Biden and Ukraine and I want the truth about the DNC emails. I don't think we have it yet


Republicans have openly admitted Trumps guilt but voted
along party lines because like liberals, republicans like there
cushy jobs too.

I think that there is a range of opinion among Republicans as well as Democrats. Basically what Trump did can be interpreted in ways ranging from total innocence to completely inappropriate. I don't know his actual intention, but I do think it is hazardous to attempt to read the mind of a person and assume the worst possible intent in the manner that the Democrats have insisted.

I would assume that the President was aware that Biden was a Democrat. However that does not mean that his intent was necessarily corrupt. One thing I know: some people will assume the best of intentions and some will assume the worst. And that is undoubtedly true for both Republicans and Democrats. I think the position of some Republicans was that even if the worst is assumed, it does not rise to the level of an impeachable offense. I would count myself among those.

But that doesn't mean that that is what I believe. My actual opinion is that his intention was relatively innocent meaning that it was about as innocent as one could expect from a politician.

Vindman is being attacked because any slight against trump
requires a nuclear response.

I think a retired Army officer, Jim Hickman, who knew with him in Grafenwoher, Germany was right. I think Vindman is a Democratic activist in uniform. I think the last thing Trump needs is to have Democratic activists in his administration supposedly carrying out his policies (who actually oppose them). Vindman will simply be reassigned. He is still in the army. (However, I understand that his twin brother will be without a job at least momentarily. My guess is that one of the Democratic think tanks will quickly pick him up. It is how political activists are usually employed when their party is out of power in DC.)

Trump has maneuvered himself into a very good place by
obstructing justice, Lying to congress and ignoring our own
intelligence community because he knew damn well what
Russia was up to and day one he lifted sanctions and invited
them into the WH with open arms.

I disagree. I don't know how else to say it. I will say that I think the Democrats have manuvered themselves into a very bad place with their incessent unfounded attacks, however.

Anyway the point is he says fake news,the system is rigged
just like our elections so if there truly rigged he can simply ignore
the 2020 results without acknowledging the count because the
system is rigged when he doesn’t get his way.

It isn't Trump who has insisted that elections were rigged. (He has correctly pointed out that the 2016 Democratic primaries were rigged against Bernie Sanders and that the Dems are trying to do it again this year.)

I have repeatedly said he will win 2020 as the Dems have nobody
who has the balls to take him on and still the perceived threat of
Biden made the Ukrainian shit show happen, Biden was never going to win
because he is a human gaff machine and Bernie is a slam dunk
with his mantra of get in line for your free shit socialism agenda.

I think you are right that Joe Biden was never going to win. And the impeachment trial has ruined what little chance he had in the beginning. The media did a pretty good job of protecting him until the trial, but the trial exposed him. And supposedly, it was to intended to help him. It just goes to show that the Democrats can fuck up a wet dream.

There are no gimme’s in life if you want something in this country
working hard and sacrifice can get you what you need and I believe
in this principal.
Trump is a man with no honor or moral compass and has been proven
every other sentence from his mouth is a lie but then again all politicians
lie, so there’s that.
Let’s spend a minute on the economy,
Republicans ran this nation into the ground and killed thousands
of American troops for a dumbass war in Iraq.
The day W took office he wanted SSI to be put into the
stock market! thank god that didn’t happen...

The neocons, both Democratic and Republican, got us into the middle east wars. You can count the Clintons right along with the Cheneys and Rumsfelds. There isn't 10 cents worth of difference between the lot of them.

Obama was handed a country that was completely broken both
financially and militarily.
So from what obama had to work with being on the “right track” wasn’t
close to what Trump was handed and our corporate masters have
run amuck with the free wheeling style of investing in themselves
and it doesn’t bother me it’s just the way things are, I get it.
Make no mistake we are not heading in any direction that matters
to everyday Americans.
My supermarket is cashier free,how about yours?
Self driving cars are more about transporting and
Employee free delivery of goods

Well, we certainly have self serve at the gas stations and it is getting that way at the grocery store. In the meantime, we are closing in on 8 million new jobs since Trump came into office. The January numbers came out today; another 225,000 new jobs were added in January.
 
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Hmmm

I think the truth will eventually come out--whatever it is.
I wouldn't bet on it though
I would not rely on his testimony. I am sure that he would have to have extensive documentation to convince someone like Durham. But I think he and his organization will have it. It is documented that in the past, he worked directly with hackers even suggesting tools that they might use in gaining access to information to be published by Wikileaks.
I thought he had a Powerful organization pre 2016, so much so They could get him out of the UK Somehow. but that didn't work out. as time went on We seen he acted alone mostly. if he had backers ...even ....they were not helping him...jail. now he looks like another ONCE useful idiot, in the scheme of things.
 
I wouldn't bet on it though

I thought he had a Powerful organization pre 2016, so much so They could get him out of the UK Somehow. but that didn't work out. as time went on We seen he acted alone mostly. if he had backers ...even ....they were not helping him...jail. now he looks like another ONCE useful idiot, in the scheme of things.

I can't imagine how any organization would have gotten him out of the UK. The wonder is that he could remain in the Ecuadorian embassy so long while defying both the USA and UK.

Apparently he was in poor health when he was arrested. I would therefore suppose that the UK--at the urging of the USA--is doing everything it can to nurse him back to health while he is in their care in a maximum security prison. As for being a once useful idiot, I think he can still be very useful in the hands of someone like John Durham.

Just a guess. I could be wrong.
 
Snowden's buddy ?

I can't imagine how any organization would have gotten him out of the UK.
First $$$. you sneak him out the embassy, onto a private plane, there or elsewhere. the EU is like the states here. not that hard just $$$. how much was the UK spending in personal on the 24/7 ? my guess less as time went on. if the $$ was there. do a fake escape early on to get to see their hand, if they noticed. not that hard if you had a single million behind you, change to spare. St Petersburg ahead LOL......... Hi Edward we Pal's ? Putin could have.......... if he cared.
 
First $$$. you sneak him out the embassy, onto a private plane, there or elsewhere. the EU is like the states here. not that hard just $$$. how much was the UK spending in personal on the 24/7 ? my guess less as time went on. if the $$ was there. do a fake escape early on to get to see their hand, if they noticed. not that hard if you had a single million behind you, change to spare. St Petersburg ahead LOL......... Hi Edward we Pal's ? Putin could have.......... if he cared.

Well, maybe. But this sounds more like how daring they were and what risks Assange and his compatriots were willing to take in attempting a prison break from the embassy than how much power they had as an organization.
 
Locked up

Well, maybe. But this sounds more like how daring they were and what risks Assange and his compatriots were willing to take in attempting a prison break from the embassy than how much power they had as an organization.
Power is $$$ and vice versa. without me writing a book here. his type of work with mostly nerds for sure yet on the shadey side. the talk would/should have been how to free him. risk/reward etc fuck like you said he was imprisoned anyway. his only chance of any type of freedom has passed him by.
 
Over the past year I’ve made my points honestly
and clearly without regard to either party.
Cliff was a “libertarian” who now finally admits
he’s a republican.
I have never stated anything that was attached
to being a liberal because I’m not,never have been.
Right/ wrong are my barometer for whoever is in
the WH.
I find it hard to believe anyone actually approves
of Trump as our President and if you do more power
to you.
I’m exhausted of the everyday drama of this administration
and over the past couple of weeks I have given up news
and information and have been busy with other things that
are more important.
Mad, Cliff, it’s been fun but I’m out for awhile, common ground
is lost and I’m not going to defend or waste my energy on politics.
It’s been fun and we all know where we stand.

Hammer your a complete ass as a moderator and a horrible little man.

Best wishes to all of you
Cya on the Browns board
 
Over the past year I’ve made my points honestly
and clearly without regard to either party.
Cliff was a “libertarian” who now finally admits
he’s a republican.
I have never stated anything that was attached
to being a liberal because I’m not,never have been.
Right/ wrong are my barometer for whoever is in
the WH.
I find it hard to believe anyone actually approves
of Trump as our President and if you do more power
to you.
I’m exhausted of the everyday drama of this administration
and over the past couple of weeks I have given up news
and information and have been busy with other things that
are more important.
Mad, Cliff, it’s been fun but I’m out for awhile, common ground
is lost and I’m not going to defend or waste my energy on politics.
It’s been fun and we all know where we stand.

Hammer your a complete ass as a moderator and a horrible little man.

Best wishes to all of you
Cya on the Browns board

Wow who shit in your Corn Flakes this morning?
 
Bad choices

I waited 30+ years for Trump.. .. we kept getting/making bad choices.
kinda like music,let's take 1975 #1 Captain & Tennille.. Lordy mercy
there were so many Classic music releases that year. likey 200 better songs. or 2,000
 
Over the past year I’ve made my points honestly
and clearly without regard to either party.

Yes I know, Dan. You have said that repeatedly. However, it always seems that in your lexicon, liberals are never wrong and conservatives are never right.

Cliff was a “libertarian” who now finally admits
he’s a republican.

I have never denied that I am a Republican leaning Libertarian or maybe a conservative Republican who leans Libertartian.

I have never stated anything that was attached
to being a liberal because I’m not,never have been.
Right/ wrong are my barometer for whoever is in
the WH.

Except, again, that liberals are never wrong and conservatives are never right. This being the case, right and wrong become code for liberal and conservative.

I find it hard to believe anyone actually approves
of Trump as our President and if you do more power
to you.

I am not in love with some of the rhetoric. I wish that he would tone some of it down. But that is just a preference. However, I approve of much of what he has done including the deregulation and the tax cuts to corporations, to allow the corporations and other businesses to be more competitive in this country as opposed to foreign countries, the improved trade agreements, the winding down of foreign wars and his plans for reducing foreign aid. Can you tell me that you really prefer NAFTA and the way China was playing us?

I’m exhausted of the everyday drama of this administration
and over the past couple of weeks I have given up news
and information and have been busy with other things that
are more important.

Yes, I know, you think Trump should have gone to jail for all the nebulas crimes you think he must have committed behind the scene. But you might as well accept it, Dan: Mueller's attack dogs spent two years and $35 million dollars searching for a Russian connection to the Trump campaign and didn't find it. And it now appears that the main effect of the Ukrainian attacks and partisan drive for the impeachment of Donald Trump is the revelation of Biden family corruption.

Mad, Cliff, it’s been fun but I’m out for awhile, common ground
is lost and I’m not going to defend or waste my energy on politics.
It’s been fun and we all know where we stand.

I am not sure we ever really had common ground. I guess I can't remember what I said that gave you the impression that I was anything other that a peace loving Libertarian who opposed the neocons and warmongers of both parties who got us into all these foreign wars. And a conservative Republican who has consistently opposed the overreach of liberal government policies in both domestic and foreign affairs.

Yeah, sure, I once opposed Trump, but that was back when I thought he was a Democrat stalking horse for Hillary. And I really didn't think he could be elected anyway. I read the polls that said he didn't have a chance. However, after he was elected and I found out what he had told Detroit executives during the campaign about what he planned to do with tariffs to force them to bring their manufacturing operations back to America, I changed my mind about him. I fully support his policies on tariffs, trade, regulations, taxes, foreign aid, immigration and peace through strength. I fully agree with his emphasis on defense and the shared cost of defense.
 
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