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I'm seriously digging Dorsey's approach so far

Our OL depth is quite good, Beast. Kush could start on the interior for a lot of teams in this league so we could definitely bear an injury there. The rook has terrific versatility and Desmond Harrison was said to be bigger and stronger, ready to rock. Plus Lamm and the other Bears guard who started a lot of games last year.

I think our DL depth is way underrated too... but I'll take McCoy. I do think he's gonna land here.
 
Numero uno hermanos ...



1) Cleveland Browns

New head coach Freddie Kitchens has tried to put a lid on excessively optimistic public predictions of success made by his players, but who can blame the Browns for being excited? This is the best-looking Cleveland roster since the team returned to action in 1999. Odell Beckham Jr., the crown jewel of the Browns' offseason acquisition binge, brings a massive big-play element to a passing attack that already featured the talented Jarvis Landry and emerging youngster Antonio Callaway. When Kareem Hunt gets on the field following his eight-game suspension for violating the NFL personal-conduct policy, he'll only help a running back group that features productive players Nick Chubb and Duke Johnson. Beckham's fellow trade piece, Olivier Vernon, projects as a strong complementary edge rusher to Myles Garrett, while signee Sheldon Richardson should help the interior pass rush. Cleveland is hoping veteran safety Morgan Burnett will rebound from a disappointing season in Pittsburgh well enough to fill the shoes of Jabrill Peppers, who was shipped to the Giants as part of the Beckham-Vernon swap. The Browns didn't have a first-round pick as a result of that trade, but cornerback Greedy Williams is a skilled pass defender, and his selection in the second round (drafted No. 46 overall) was an excellent pick.

Kitchens is a great hire. He has an infectious personality. Between quarterback Baker Mayfield's star turn as a rookie last season and the suddenly loaded lineup, expectations are higher in Cleveland than they've been since Bernie Kosar's heyday. The challenge for Kitchens is to keep this group from falling into the same trap as the "Dream Team" Eagles, who rode a similar tidal wave of hype into the 2011 season before stumbling to an 8-8 record.
 
Saw that, Ocon. Weirder yet, my first thought was, "Who's got a better roster?"

Some other site put us as having one of the four best defensive backfields... and then we won the vote with 40%. Don't even remember who it was, seems something like that pops up every day.

When I look at our cover guys, pass rushers, QB, and his weapons? Man, that's SO hard to beat. I know Baker-Odell-Jarvis-Chubb-Hunt can't be topped. No chance.
 
Get ready for the annual migration of 'pretty good' players out of Cleveland...but not in the way it was in the past. It will be because we have replacements and can afford to let them walk...and then collect a ton of 3rd/4th rd compensatory picks...aka another team that shall remain nameless.
 
Totally agree, we should brace ourselves for some exits we're not used to, guys other teams want and value.

Feels like it's settling out in Vegas as Bears, Saints, Patriots, and Chiefs as the top four, then the Browns are in the very next group. Saw us tied with Packers and Rams, just ahead of Bears.

When T. Hill gets suspended, and he will, Browns should pass the Chiefs. I think we're the better team. I see the AFC race being Patriots, Browns, Chiefs, and Colts.

(Helmed by Brady, Baker, Mahomes, and Luck. Quarterback league.)
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pass the ball, stop the pass<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WinningFootball?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WinningFootball</a></p>— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve/status/1151474862667571200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The additions of Olivier Vernon and Sheldon Richardson - with Garrett and Ogunjobi already in the fold - have made the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> pass-rush a top-3 unit heading into 2019<a href="https://t.co/X8PjiDVHdM">https://t.co/X8PjiDVHdM</a> <a href="https://t.co/Xb1wDboYQV">pic.twitter.com/Xb1wDboYQV</a></p>— PFF CLE Browns (@PFF_Browns) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Browns/status/1151820701789315072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The rebuild wasn't just freaky fast -- from 0-16 to Top 5 in Vegas with a sold out season in July?? -- it was incredibly sound for the league we'll be playing in for the next decade: Pass the ball and stop the pass.

The core of our core is Baker, OBJ, Myles, and Ward. Flawless. That's where you want your money. Browns are extremely good and deep with pocket rattlers, cover guys, passcatchers, and Baker Mayfields. Of which you only need one.

But the key is to keep those four to build around. When your four best players are a QB, a #1 WR, an edge, and a corner? Damnit, that's how it's done.
 
#Browns players traded by John Dorsey:

  • G Kevin Zeitler - acquired Olivier Vernon, Edge
  • S Jabrill Peppers - acquired OBJ, WR
  • WR Josh Gordon - drafted Austin Seibert, K
  • WR Corey Coleman - acquired a 2020 7th rounder
  • DL Danny Shelton - acquired 2019 3rd rounder, used in the OBJ trade
  • CB Jason McCourty - acquired a 6th round pick, used to move up and draft Antonio Callaway, WR
  • CB Jamar Taylor - acquired a 2020 6th rounder
  • DE Emmanuel Ogbah - acquired Eric Murray, SS/ST
  • OL Shon Coleman - acquired Devaroe Lawrence, DT
  • RB Duke Johnson - acquired a 2020 3rd rounder
  • QB DeShone Kizer - acquired Damarious Randall, FS
  • QB Kevin Hogan - swapped 2019 6th round draft slots with the Redskins, drafted Drew Forbes, OT
  • QB Cody Kessler - acquired a 2019 7th rounder - drafted Donnie Lewis Jr., CB

Looks like Dorsey has a batting average north of 0.900
 
Dorsey man, just relentless, lol, "Zo. Florida this week. Who can we work out? Get it organized".


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today the Cleveland <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> worked out several players in Miami. One of those players was Arena Football League’s Rookie of the Year Fabian Guerra.</p>— NFL Draft Diamonds (@DraftDiamonds) <a href="https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds/status/1163949808698236928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I think this is the best place for this instead of a new thread.

An article on roster building. There are many facts?? here that I never even considered with respect to the makeup of the 53 man squad. Here's the link followed by a bit of the starting text

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...n-with-cowboys/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Are these parameters fact or his rules?




Agent's Take: 2019's ultimate 53-man roster features Ezekiel Elliott after massive extension with Cowboys
By Joel Corry
18h ago • 15 min read


Creating the ultimate 53-man roster is a pretty simple endeavor without any parameters. It starts getting tricky when operating under a salary cap. Roster construction becomes more complicated with other restrictions designed to prevent a squad from resembling last season's All-Pro team, but the constraints bring more realism to selection process.
The ground rules are as follows.

Parameters
1. The salary cap for the roster is $200.3 million, although the actual NFL salary cap is $188.2 million for this year. The number being used is the league's average adjusted salary cap according to NFLPA data. Each NFL team's working salary cap varies largely because unused cap room can be carried over from one year to the next. For example, the Browns have league's highest adjusted salary cap at just under $246.7 million largely thanks to carrying over nearly $57 million of cap room. The Chargers have the lowest at $187.643 million, which is slightly below the league-wide number. Situations like this typically occur when incentives earned during the previous season that weren't counting on the cap get accounted for without sufficient cap room carrying over from the prior year to make up the difference.

2. The NFL Draft is an essential element of roster building for NFL teams. It is for this exercise as well. One player from each round of 2019 draft must be on the roster. The number requirement drops by one player for each year of the preceding three drafts (2016-18). The limit of one player per round remains. Thus, only four 2016 draft picks are required. There's one other draft pick constraint: only one 2015 first-round pick whose fifth year option was exercised is allowed regardless of whether he signed a contract extension. Selecting one isn't a necessity.

3. The backups at each position are limited to players that aren't established starters so young veterans cracking the lineup for the first time are eligible. Second-year players that didn't start at least half of their team's games or play a minimum of 50 percent of the snaps on their side of the ball qualify as reserves. Players competing for starting jobs or where there's a "by committee approach" at a position, usually running back, are also acceptable. A backfield containing Ezekiel Elliott and Saquon Barkley is prohibited since both are workhorse or every-down running backs.

4. There's one big allowance being made defensively: Three starting cornerbacks are acceptable without sacrificing a starter in a traditional base defense since five or more defensive backs are now used over 60% of the time in the NFL. The result is 12 defensive starters.

5. Choosing a player that was given a franchise or transition designation in 2019 is optional. However, only one player receiving a 2019 designation can be selected.
 
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I was really unimpressed with Whitehead and Burnett in game one. Whitehead gave up a roughing penalty and a TD. Burnett might have given up a TD (First to Walker, although it might have been on Kirko, depends on the zone) but he also gave up a few catches. Both were largely unimpressive against the run and pass. Nothing major, but none the less uninspiring.

I wonder if Eric Berry is still an option. He seems like a perfect fit given Dorsey's fondness and his experience. Now that week one is in the books, he doesn't get his base salary guaranteed as a vested veteran. It's only 25% guaranteed.

Going unsigned, one has to wonder if the problem was him or his asking price. If it's the latter, that might come down now that it's clear there aren't many opportunities for him out there.

The Eric Berry of old is certainly a pipe dream, but I can't figure out why this team so prominently features Jermaine Whitehead. He's never really been on the field much throughout his career, and I don't recall seeing much about him impressing in camp or preseason.
 
All things being equal, I tend not to be much interested in acquiring players past their prime.

Fair point, and I'd lean the same way if he'd be playing his traditional role, but he'd now be playing the extra man in Wilks' 4-2-5 as a nickel safety. I like him for that role because range would be less an issue, and the instincts that made him an All-Pro would come in handy.

I think, too, I'm just fascinated by what is happening. It's hard to know because Berry doesn't use social media and he's a very private person. Articles from around the internet cannot agree on why he is unsigned - some say injury robbed him of his athleticism to a career-ending degree, some say his asking price is still too high, some say he's protecting his health while waiting for the perfect opportunity, some say he's waiting for a playoff picture to develop in the hopes of a ring.

It's a great shame - he's only 30 years old. No spring chicken, but for a safety of his calibre, and a man of his intelligence and leadership, it's very early to not even be considered for a back-up role.
 
Listening to Grossi on the radio talking about an encounter with Dorsey before the game up in the press box.
Says the Dorse was not his jovial self..... this was before the game?

I felt like it was a gross attempt to get Odell the ball.... Kinda forced all night...

Also hoping there are no skeletons in the closet of our #1 pick. Scrutiny gets intensified after head scratching performances..
 
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