Browns The new Andrew Berry
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Chuck Brown
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It's the time of the year where hope springs eternal 
Martin Eden
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Whether it works out or not remains to be seen, but early thoughts for me is back-to-back home runs for Berry (and the Browns) last year and this.
The Haymaker
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dont compare 25 & 26. graham is a bust so far at #5 overall.period.
A+ 26, B 25
A+ 26, B 25
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OconRecon
If you're juiceless, you're useless
Nah man. Totally wrong.
Among all DT’s last season, Mason Graham was:
• Top-25 in total pressures
• Top-20 in pass rush win rate
• Top-10 in run stoppage
• Weeks 7-18 (20% snap min), he was 15th overall, out of 142
• Weeks 7-18 (50% snap min), he was 6th overall, out of 71 (i.e. the higher volume IDL’s)
That’s not a bust and please don’t quote sacks if so inclined. It’s a poor measure.
The Haymaker
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I watched every game last year.the kid has zero zero impact on the game,any game
where's the stat for that? a 5th overall? c'mon man, we missed.
where's the stat for that? a 5th overall? c'mon man, we missed.
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OconRecon
If you're juiceless, you're useless
Nah man. Totally wrong.
Among all DT’s last season, Mason Graham was:
• Top-25 in total pressures
• Top-20 in pass rush win rate
• Top-10 in run stoppage
• Weeks 7-18 (20% snap min), he was 15th overall, out of 142
• Weeks 7-18 (50% snap min), he was 6th overall, out of 71 (i.e. the higher volume grinders)
That’s not a bust and please don’t quote sacks if so inclined. It’s a poor measure.
That might not seem great, for 5th, but he was the best IDL in his class, and got better as the season went on. Also, IDL is a famously slow-to-aclimate position.
The Haymaker
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you guys have expanded on this and so must I.
I watched graham like a hawk all year.I am a D guy and was pumped as a strong DT is essential for
shwartz D scheme.something he never had here.I have been anticipating the drafting of a top
DT for years now since the canaadian dumptruck DT gallimore 3rd rd 2020.we take jumbo 6 picks later.
graham at #5. do I have to go through the history of top 5 DT picks to REALLY compare graham?
hint-its a very short list of DT superstars. c'mon man.this kid was overdrafted.period.
davis,williams,carter and...graham?
I watched graham like a hawk all year.I am a D guy and was pumped as a strong DT is essential for
shwartz D scheme.something he never had here.I have been anticipating the drafting of a top
DT for years now since the canaadian dumptruck DT gallimore 3rd rd 2020.we take jumbo 6 picks later.
graham at #5. do I have to go through the history of top 5 DT picks to REALLY compare graham?
hint-its a very short list of DT superstars. c'mon man.this kid was overdrafted.period.
davis,williams,carter and...graham?
Martin Eden
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I loved the Graham pick from day 1. He's going to be anchoring our interior for a decade.
The Haymaker
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I asked #99 what he thought for 5th overall..he said
play grahams highlight ree..its over.sorry,its not popular,nice kid.cant play a lick.
prolly will. point is hes obviously been overated & overdrafted.sapp went 12th overall
play grahams highlight ree..its over.sorry,its not popular,nice kid.cant play a lick.
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OconRecon
If you're juiceless, you're useless
Zero evidence this is the case.
In fact, there's evidence to the contrary.
Want to see more from him? That's fair.
Labeling him as "can't play". Nah.
Doesn't help in making your point it looks like you're typing with your pecker.