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Brownsfan said:
Well, LOL, I bid a Brian Hoyer and then raise you a Colt McCoy. Bet you can't beat that.
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I appreciate the confidence boost. All you've got on me is a free agent gamble who took a 2-year minimum deal before proceeding to give this team the best record any QB has had since the return, and a 3rd round pick, who people conveniently like to forget I liked because I accurately pointed out the first round quarterbacks would all be significantly worse value than McCoy, and he's ultimately gone on to be the best QB in that draft - Minus Bradford who is always injured, literally the greediest player I've seen in NFL history and mildly productive at his best, which ain't exactly worth the value of $50M and multiple first round picks that it would have required to select him.

I'll raise you a 28-year-old rookie who cost the 22nd overall pick. I'll also raise you that I wanted to sit on Julio Jones, and post trade I wanted Alshon Jeffery. Both Pro-Bowlers, while Weeden is two weeks from being out of the NFL given Brock and Savage are ahead of him on the roster. I'll also raise you being so infatuated with that 22nd overall pick that you followed him to Dallas as a back-up, then came crawling back to the Browns when the Dallas boards banned you for insisting Romo be benched for Weeden and Dallas ultimately released Weeden.

I think I bet that. :)
 
brownsdownunder said:
I appreciate the confidence boost. All you've got on me is a free agent gamble who took a 2-year minimum deal before proceeding to give this team the best record any QB has had since the return, and a 3rd round pick, who people conveniently like to forget I liked because I accurately pointed out the first round quarterbacks would all be significantly worse value than McCoy, and he's ultimately gone on to be the best QB in that draft - Minus Bradford who is always injured, literally the greediest player I've seen in NFL history and mildly productive at his best, which ain't exactly worth the value of $50M and multiple first round picks that it would have required to select him.

I'll raise you a 28-year-old rookie who cost the 22nd overall pick. I'll also raise you that I wanted to sit on Julio Jones, and post trade I wanted Alshon Jeffery. Both Pro-Bowlers, while Weeden is two weeks from being out of the NFL given Brock and Savage are ahead of him on the roster. I'll also raise you being so infatuated with that 22nd overall pick that you followed him to Dallas as a back-up, then came crawling back to the Browns when the Dallas boards banned you for insisting Romo be benched for Weeden and Dallas ultimately released Weeden.

I think I bet that. :)
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I see you are smiling and that is a good thing. And I have to say that I like Colt a lot better than Sam Bradford.
 
brownsdownunder said:
I appreciate the confidence boost. All you've got on me is a free agent gamble who took a 2-year minimum deal before proceeding to give this team the best record any QB has had since the return, and a 3rd round pick, who people conveniently like to forget I liked because I accurately pointed out the first round quarterbacks would all be significantly worse value than McCoy, and he's ultimately gone on to be the best QB in that draft - Minus Bradford who is always injured, literally the greediest player I've seen in NFL history and mildly productive at his best, which ain't exactly worth the value of $50M and multiple first round picks that it would have required to select him.

I'll raise you a 28-year-old rookie who cost the 22nd overall pick. I'll also raise you that I wanted to sit on Julio Jones, and post trade I wanted Alshon Jeffery. Both Pro-Bowlers, while Weeden is two weeks from being out of the NFL given Brock and Savage are ahead of him on the roster. I'll also raise you being so infatuated with that 22nd overall pick that you followed him to Dallas as a back-up, then came crawling back to the Browns when the Dallas boards banned you for insisting Romo be benched for Weeden and Dallas ultimately released Weeden.

I think I bet that. :)
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That was pretty fucking awesome schooling of the Dallas Cowboys fan I gotta admit.
 
King of Kings said:
That was pretty fucking awesome schooling of the Dallas Cowboys fan I gotta admit.
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As George Bernard Shaw once said: "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

(Note: the above passage has been repeated any number of times by different notables in slightly different forms. But, supposedly, it was Shaw who was the first to say it, and I particularly admire Shaw's choice of words.)
 
King of Kings said:
That was pretty fucking awesome schooling of the Dallas Cowboys fan I gotta admit.
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The Hoyer hate drives me up the wall. People who liked Hoyer take so much shit but that is only because the alternative was Johnny Manziel - I'm thinking the Hoyer fans carry a big fat W on that one and everyone knows it. One doesn't accidently like an undrafted veteran back-up over a 22nd overall Heisman winning rookie without astute observations, much less get it right. Besides, people only liked him post-winning, there wasn't a single person who didn't want continued options in place of Hoyer.

Frankly, I should be nice and help people in their pursuit of trying to get one in on me.

1. In 2012 I narrowed the 4th overall pick down to Richardson, Blackmon and Claiborne. All busts, while I said Luke Kuechly wasn't worth such a high selection. Only two hits I had in the draft were Alson Jeffery (often injured but talented) and Lavonte David (More luck than skill) while missing a bunch of pro-bowlers, like Russell Wilson, who were not on my radar.

2. In 2014 I thought Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater and Carr were all top 10 picks. Only one was. Bortles, who I had as my 3rd QB and I REALLY didn't like Derek Carr, putting a 3rd round grade on him. Both of them are fucking brilliant. I only narrowly had Bridgewater ahead of Manziel, my one saving grace, but those rankings went to shit. I also had a 3rd round grade on Yawin Smallwood, who went in the 7th with the 4th last pick in the draft and hasn't done anything in the NFL.

They need to start using those. McCoy and Hoyer were victories on my part, particularly when it comes from people who insisted Johnny Fuckup was an upstanding citizen and lost their shit for Brandon Weeden who frankly sucked more than McCoy throwing the ball left handed.
 
I only question Colt McCoy's choice of personal endorsements... You can't read his testimonial anymore because the company (shockingly) went under.

He was plucky, and he pretty much got hosed here in Cleveland but IMO he was never going to be our QBOTF, that's why I have always given you a hard time about the Colt endorsement BDU but as far as QB picks Cleveland has made, he's been one of the lesser evils so to speak.
 
Forget endorsements, we need only acknowledge that Colt McCoy funded and owned a muffin shop. Yep, Colt McCoy started a fucking muffin shop in Texas. I remember reading that and thinking "Colt, no, please. We can't take any more jokes and you're just opening the damn door."

I remember it being a really good cause though, raising money for something like breast cancer, so it didn't take many jokes because we all love that shit. But it was still a damn muffin shop. At least he didn't call it "Colt's cupcakes" or I probably would have died.
 
Getting the line right is the only thing standing between the Browns and "Greatest Show on Turf" type fun in 2016. Deep threats everywhere and a guy with a lifetime reputation for throwing a gorgeous and accurate deep ball? Tickets, please.
 
The line should hold. It all comes down to Cam. Dude is going to be singled out when the season hits and that has me scared - the only time he looks decent is on doubles, but the second he's got a man to himself he's totally and completely fucked.

I'm still wondering if it's a better option to put Spencer Drango at G and push Greco over to C. Seemed like Drango was brought in to be a guard, at the time.
 
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