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Why are colleges so liberal?

Danamal said:
Unions were a huge deal in the thirties and greatly supported by blue
collar workers everywhere,FDR was on board as well,
but like everything that man touches ultimately becomes corrupt.
Unions today have become obsolete in that they really don’t have
power the way they once did, to much aggravation and they close
the plant and move it out of country destroying not only jobs but
entire cities like Detroit, or Lordstown/Youngstown,are completely
devastated into poverty.
Mind you this isn’t all on unions,a lot of the blame falls squarely on
the bottom line in this corporate era we live in.
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Or the government that maintained high corporate tax rates domestically while permitting companies who export the manufacture of products (and thus jobs) to other countries with lower corporate taxes while allowing said companied to escape US taxes on products brought back and sold in the US. I understand the ideal of free trade and the argument that the products are taxed in the country of manufacture (at a lower rate of course) and companies should not be double taxed. But it seems to me that laws could have been written such that our government could have at least taxed the difference between our high rates and other countries low rates.

In my opinion, the main culprit was the government.
 
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The History of workers and unions is...History. the were other factors, that were also there in the past. the union were the new Thing.

Sure the Gov is to blame for loss of mfg/jobs. they could've easily by putting in limits of cars,steel etc.

Free trade (FT) is kinda like the Old Testament but not the good news of The Gospel. FT between countries of excess of products is good old FT rules. 1800s we had more cotton than we needed so we traded it to Europe for wine etc. both good because it allowed us to get things we can't produce at home.

This New FT is different. these Asian countries our producing items they hadn't ever before. just to sell them to us. that's why I say BS when a talking head preaches the Old FT Testament.

Brownsfan said:
However, I tend to dispute the statement that unions help keep the wages of non-union workers up. Perhaps there was something to that in the early 20th century and earlier. But I don't think it applies today. Today, it appears to me that the main driver for wage increases is competition. With a mobile work force, companies have to compete for the most dependable and skilled workers available. Companies like the one I worked for do surveys to discover the pay scales of the local machine shops to discover what they have to pay in order to remain competitive.
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Kinda proves my point.... as always looking to pay as little as possible. for hundreds and thousands of years. the little people got little for their labor and low life expectancy. while many of the elite were living as long as we do today.
 
madmadworld said:
Kinda proves my point.... as always looking to pay as little as possible. for hundreds and thousands of years. the little people got little for their labor and low life expectancy. while many of the elite were living as long as we do today.
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It is all a matter of balance. With a good balance, the corporation (or other hiring entity) makes enough money to stay in business and pay good wages to their employees. In an ideal balance, there are good paying jobs for everyone who wants one.

But there are two possible bad balances. In one bad balance, the corporation (or other hiring entity) cannot afford the labor costs of producing their products and goes bankrupt resulting in the loss of jobs.

The other bad balance is when there are more people desiring jobs than available jobs in which case the corporations (or other hiring entity) tend to hire more people at lower wages to overproduce which tends to cause pressure to reduce prices below costs to eliminate inventory resulting in the loss of jobs.

Right now, with the lower tax rates that are more competitive in the world of commerce, we have a relatively good balance. So, of course, there is a call for more taxes on the hiring entities (to soak the rich) which will, of course, result in the loss of jobs.
 
Somewhat changing the topic a little is some frustrations I've been having with some co workers recently. One worker always flaunts her master's degree like it somehow excuses her from like actually doing work. Another co-worker has every HR Clause memorized to get her out of doing something that might not be appealing to her. For example I got asked to return a keyboard she ordered. When I asked why do I have to do it just becomes some HR clause to get her out of it because she doesn't want too. And really how hard is it to return an item from Staples? I would say though there's a certain amount of knowing how to work with customer service for it.

My point is even though I work in an office I can always tell the people who loved school and or are book smart so to speak at the expense of common sense.
 
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Chuck Brown said:
For example I got asked to return a keyboard she ordered. When I asked why do I have to do it just becomes some HR clause to get her out of it because she doesn't want too.
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Looks like You need to make a trip to HR, for abuse of a subordinate. unless it's in your job description. Store returns..lol
 
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Chuck Brown said:
Somewhat changing the topic a little is some frustrations I've been having with some co workers recently. One worker always flaunts her master's degree like it somehow excuses her from like actually doing work. Another co-worker has every HR Clause memorized to get her out of doing something that might not be appealing to her. For example I got asked to return a keyboard she ordered. When I asked why do I have to do it just becomes some HR clause to get her out of it because she doesn't want too. And really how hard is it to return an item from Staples? I would say though there's a certain amount of knowing how to work with customer service for it.

My point is even though I work in an office I can always tell the people who loved school and or are book smart so to speak at the expense of common sense.
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Those co-workers would be getting a mighty "go fuck yourself" from me and then I'd be making a trip to HR LOL
 
madmadworld said:
Looks like You need to make a trip to HR, for abuse of a subordinate. unless it's in your job description. Store returns..lol
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I went to HR for another issue similar to this. There's a clause in the job description that says additional tasks may be assigned that the company clings on too. In this case this co-worker has seniority on me so it's kind of a winless battle.

Back when I started with the company I wasn't savvy to all these goings on. So as indicated that's why I'm going back to community college at night gutting my undergrad degree to some extent in the process. Can learn more practical real life skills. Hence to some extent the angle I was taking starting this thread Why Are Colleges So Liberal?

I was just putting out a little gripe I was having but I'm surprised/glad/laughing at how much everyone enjoyed reading about it lol. Cheers
 
HR,
Is another politically correct bunch of crap.
Now employees have to walk on eggshells
because someone is offended by a suggestion
joke or discussions.
You have to be careful when you get to be on a
first name basis because then YOUR the one
under the microscope!
 
Danamal said:
HR,
Is another politically correct bunch of crap.
Now employees have to walk on eggshells
because someone is offended by a suggestion
joke or discussions.
You have to be careful when you get to be on a
first name basis because then YOUR the one
under the microscope!
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You have to understand that the people working in HR are employees just like everyone else and they also walk on eggshells. They generally have to justify their actions even more than everyone else because, in actuality, they are more under the microscope that anyone. They have to play it by the book and, so, in your interactions with HR, it is generally in your best interest to do the same.

If you choose to involve HR, you should carefully read your employee handbook. it is in your best interest to know what it contains.

There is an old saying which is that you can't fight city hall. Doing so is kind of like fighting the establishment. It don't work so well as Trump appears not to be aware, but should have paid attention. Same thing with HR.
 
Brownsfan said:
You have to understand that the people working in HR are employees just like everyone else and they also walk on eggshells. They generally have to justify their actions even more than everyone else because, in actuality, they are more under the microscope that anyone. They have to play it by the book and, so, in your interactions with HR, it is generally in your best interest to do the same.

If you choose to involve HR, you should carefully read your employee handbook. it is in your best interest to know what it contains.

There is an old saying which is that you can't fight city hall. Doing so is kind of like fighting the establishment. It don't work so well as Trump appears not to be aware, but should have paid attention. Same thing with HR.
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Where I work the HR specialist is more in charge of payroll, benefits, and making sure employees are up to date with corporate training. There's actually a hotline the company advocates if your having abuse issues. I guess due to privacy concerns? But I mean eventually I think they see the light. I'm sure this HR person does a lot of behind the scenes type of work but I don't really know how hard she actually works. I only say that as she's not in the office quite a bit.

In a previous lifetime I worked for a small company where the owner's wife was in charge of HR. That caused all the conflicts of interests you would think. In this case as Dan alluded it was a joke.
 
Danamal said:
HR,
Is another politically correct bunch of crap.
Now employees have to walk on eggshells
because someone is offended by a suggestion
joke or discussions.
You have to be careful when you get to be on a
first name basis because then YOUR the one
under the microscope!
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Bottom line:

I've always made sure I do a job and that I do it very well. I may have my moment's where I've been abrasive but I have gotten in more professional trouble from social media faux-pas than being unprofessional with colleagues and I've straight up had shouting matches with people (I am not a quiet person btw, and most people mistake my intensity for anger so when I am actually angry... hoo boy).
 
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