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Manziel throws Browns under the bus

My theory is that in the beginning, Pettine got the idea that Hoyer was Brady, and, unfortunately, discovered during the season that Hoyer wasn't Brady after all and held it against Hoyer.

But, of course, all of this was because Farmer wanted Pettine to start Manziel to sell more tickets.

Gosh- your fried like an egg brain

First statement isn't off the rocker, it's off the reservation, Senior

2nd would be suitable.... if you understood it was HASLAM

holy shit, Batbrains!
 
Speaking of Johnny throwing things. He threw a TD today in limited Spring League action.

Just now saw the video. It was vintage Johnny Football, but that won't get him back to the NFL. What might do it is a willingness to learn and work within an NFL system. The problem is the circus that follows him.

What team could sign him and hold him back for a year while he learned the system and became adept within it? I think he is headed for the CFL. In a way, he is kind of like Colin Kaepernick. He doesn't work as a reserve, but he needs to prove himself as reserve before he can be a starter again. It is kind of a catch-22. However, he does have the option of going north which may be the only avenue left for him.
 
If you think "accountability" is the first step then you weren't paying attention. Because it's not.

You must be a Millenial who hasn't grown up.. yet.. Maybe you wont. I have been to rehab.. It's a total sham... If you don't believe in being accountable or responsible for your own actions in life.. You are lost.. And you will die lost...
 
Gosh- your fried like an egg brain

First statement isn't off the rocker, it's off the reservation, Senior

2nd would be suitable.... if you understood it was HASLAM

holy shit, Batbrains!

Just for the record, there were three parts to the first statement. The first part was gleaned from listening to Pettine talk about Hoyer in such glowing terms when he first arrived in Cleveland. The second part assumes that even Pettine would have figured that Hoyer was not Brady as the season went along, and the third part was an effort to understand his shabby treatment of Hoyer the second half of the season.

The second statement was sarcasm. (I would have thought that that would have been clear in context with prior exchanges earlier in this thread. But apparently context is not important to some people as noted by the fact that the quote itself was removed from its context.)
 
You must be a Millenial who hasn't grown up.. yet.. Maybe you wont. I have been to rehab.. It's a total sham... If you don't believe in being accountable or responsible for your own actions in life.. You are lost.. And you will die lost...

My rehab program was pretty good. Either way, yes you have to be accountable/responsible for your own actions in life whether or not you went to rehab and whether it was a good program or not.
 
If you think "accountability" is the first step then you weren't paying attention. Because it's not.

You didn't say what you think is the first step.

I have never had that particular problem, but my guess is that the first step in solving a problem is understanding that one had a problem and the nature of the problem. Am I close?
 
You must be a Millenial who hasn't grown up.. yet.. Maybe you wont...
It would be at least unlikely for me to be a millennial having been sober for over 22 years, but yeah not even close.

I have been to rehab.. It's a total sham...
Rehab is just whiskey prison. You're locked away from putting into your body whatever caused you to be locked up in whiskey prison for.

Sobriety is up to you, after you are released back into the real world. Rehab is not a prerequisite to sobriety, but some find the interruption helped get them started on the right path.

... If you don't believe in being accountable or responsible for your own actions in life.. You are lost.. And you will die lost...
Never said that, my side of the street is cleaned daily.

You didn't say what you think is the first step. I have never had that particular problem, but my guess is that the first step in solving a problem is understanding that one had a problem and the nature of the problem. Am I close?
Spot on, sir! Admitting you have a problem is the first step and for many of us the most difficult.

Talked to a scout who had the unfortunate task of scouting the Spring League, general impression by those who were around in 2014 was JFF presents much differently than before... off the field.

I watched some Spring League football and the quality is very poor. On the field JFF was still a runaround and chuck it up QB. But those games are a mess. Needs to go to Canada, work with June Jones for a couple of years, learn an offense.
 
When he beat Alabama that was a WTF moment for me. I watched every one of his games after that. and I don't watch much college, haven't watched any team that much since. that was some magic shit he was pulling off.
 
When he beat Alabama that was a WTF moment for me. I watched every one of his games after that. and I don't watch much college, haven't watched any team that much since. that was some magic shit he was pulling off.
Yeah, Johnny Football is the most exciting college football player ever. I'm a longhorn fan and hardly ever watch the Aggies, but I watched every game when he was there, magical. Too bad he screwed it all up. I actually joined this message board to see what other Browns fans thought about him.
 
Yeah, Johnny Football is the most exciting college football player ever. I'm a longhorn fan and hardly ever watch the Aggies, but I watched every game when he was there, magical. Too bad he screwed it all up. I actually joined this message board to see what other Browns fans thought about him.
It was never really play which translated to the pros. Just as it wasn't with Tebow
 
It was never really play which translated to the pros. Just as it wasn't with Tebow
Tebow got screwed over. the one season he got a chance he went 7-4 on a team that went 1-4 without him and a playoff win.
yes they picked up a HOF QB to replace him, that didn't win a playoff game the next season.

We won 20 games the next 6 years. I believe we would've won 50 or more with Tim. and much more Fun !
 
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