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I'm seriously digging Dorsey's approach so far

Things I've been impressed with,

1. John Dorsey was going to have to overpay for free agents. We all accepted and knew this. Guess what, he hasn't had to.

2. Why? Because the Demarious-Tyrod-Juice worked. Smart.

3. All of our free agents have been at predicted market value, and fill needs.

4. Do you know who is overpaying? The Ravens. Big time. They're perceived to be stumbling along without trajectory.

5. Solder - oft injured, and yes, above avg, but getting elite money. Nice non-panic move by Dorsey.

6. The middle class. Joe Thomas has talked about this for years, often referencing Greco. JD must be like-minded. Our depth and middle class needed upgrading.

7. The players

a) Jarvis - I'm still stunned. For the pick obtained by trading a punter.
b) Tyrod - addressed our biggest problems, QB play and TO's, and at the appropriate price
c) Randall - flexible first rounder who Dorsey knows.
d) Hubbard - handpicked by Haley and the Stillers fans were pissed
e) Stephenson - known to Dorsey, "the Drango upgrade" for depth, which is fine
f) Chris Smith* - for GGG's pass rush, rotational, "the Orchard upgrade"
g) Carlos Hyde - Haley is used to vets, I like this move, solid.
h) Fells - a "young 31" due to a European baseketball carreer, he's 6'7", and was considered the best blocking TE available.
i) Mitchell - a depth corner, not starter money. Combined with Randall, the two had 8 INT's last year.
The entire Browns team had 7.
j) Carrie - starter money, high-end PFF'er, young, from Ohio Univ. A more than serviceable addition

8. Could have overpaid TP by now. Hasn't. TP is up to his old tricks on asking price. I don't mind having TP back, but on 100% Dorsey's terms.

9. Could have sent one of our 1st or 2nd rounders somewhere, didn't. Nice.

10. Summary - so far, he's performing like a true vet.

Most of us are done predicting SuperBowls, playoffs, winning records, or hell, even more wins based on off season moves, so we'll see, but so far, so good. It appears he's working like a dog, and CBD saying as much as 60% of the roster will be new.

*all people who have a one syllable first name and one syllable last name must always be referred to using both names. This is one of life's rules.
 
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8. Could have overpaid TP by now. Hasn't. TP is up to his old tricks on asking price. I don't mind having TP back, but on 100% Dorsey's terms.

He doesn't have to with the draft in front of him. But TP would be nice.

Most of us are done predicting SuperBowls, playoffs, winning records, or hell, even more wins based on off season moves, so we'll see, but so far, so good. It appears he's working like a dog, and CBD saying as much as 60% of the roster will be new.

Wouldn't doubt it. McCourty being gone might be a signal.
 
Big John getting lots of praise on these middle class contracts. Very team friendly.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another fantastically team-friendly deal for Browns with Chris Hubbard.. it's essentially a one-year contract with a series of team options. Only $3.2M is guaranteed after 2018. So basically, he's the RT until he loses the job, at which point he gets cut. <a href="https://t.co/Jws5VoAUZI">pic.twitter.com/Jws5VoAUZI</a></p>— Ryan McCrystal (@Ryan_McCrystal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/974368672989917184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
*bump*

Mentioned it in another thread, Dorsey has everyone guessing, and it's perfect played by him.

Additionally, Jay Crawford on CBD yesterday, saying as a Browns fan and a Clevelander, he's never been this comfortable pre-draft. He's just not worried.

He feels Dorsey and his front office are going to nail the draft. They're not going to overthink it.

And speaking of CBD, the Dolphins beat writer was on and used a phrase for picking players: "Need-based-BPA". Damn I love that concept. Don't like BPA alone. Don't like need-based alone. Combing the concepts and terms make so much sense.
 
Again...anyone saying they KNOW what the Browns will do is full on BS!!!

Browns GM John Dorsey is keeping his intentions for the #1 pick a secret from everyone, including Owner Jimmy Haslam, until the night before the NFL Draft. According to Simms and @SI_PeterKing pic.twitter.com/Q2tVG93xG…

I actually LOVE the part that not even Haslam knows...because that keeps him from tampering.
 
Just watched the entire presser. Things that Dorsey said about the QB (and players in general) that he looks for...

In General:
Locker Room Fit
Scheme Fit
Love The Game
FILM - what did they put on tape

On QB's specifically:
Accuracy (does this rule out Allen?)
Strong Arm (all of top 4 have strong arms...just at varying degrees)
Extend Plays (does this rule out Rosen?)
Red Zone Efficiency (again, Rosen was low on this??)
Tight Windows (INT's say Darnold may have an issue here?)
React to Adverse Situations
Hand Size (Mayfield has the smallest, but he did mention it in regards to Darnold's fumbles)
WIN - do they make the team better? do they put the team on their shoulder?
 
Just watched the entire presser.

Thanks for the summary brother. Much apreesh.

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Veteran GM-ing all over the place today...

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I ABSOLUTELY love that Dorsey floated the idea of drafting TWO QB's in the first round. While it's highly unlikely... it totally puts other QB needy teams on edge and may look to trade up into one of our top picks. If we pick at one and trade down at four.. I would be OK.. UP TO A POINT.... I don't want to slide down too far. Buffalo at #12 would be the lowest I would want to go. at #12.. there are true studs still available. I saw a draft where we did just that and took our QB at 1.. Got Fitzpatrick with Buffalo's 12th and then got McGlinchey to be our LT with Buffalo's second first round pick.. that would be an amazing 1st round.
 
Just watched the entire presser. Things that Dorsey said about the QB (and players in general) that he looks for...

In General:
Locker Room Fit
Scheme Fit
Love The Game
FILM - what did they put on tape

On QB's specifically:
Accuracy (does this rule out Allen?)
Strong Arm (all of top 4 have strong arms...just at varying degrees)
Extend Plays (does this rule out Rosen?)
Red Zone Efficiency (again, Rosen was low on this??)
Tight Windows (INT's say Darnold may have an issue here?)
React to Adverse Situations
Hand Size (Mayfield has the smallest, but he did mention it in regards to Darnold's fumbles)
WIN - do they make the team better? do they put the team on their shoulder?

Didn't rule out a single one.
 
On the contrary... He ruled out all of them! :) None has all the features Dorsey wants. Probably doesn't mean that he won't draft a QB. Just means that none are perfect.

Can't draft the wrong QB if you don't draft one.

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Dorsey is doing an excellent job...

He’s got the media draft mavens dizzy drawing up draft prognostications...

While also ferreting out loose lips in the front office (see who gets fired after this).

The NFL owes him for maintaining the draft intrigue for so long...

Will is be arm strength?... or accuracy?... or moxie?... or hand size?... or height?... or high floor?... or low ceiling?... Wonderlic?... or... ???
 
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it's so interesting whats going on... Like Cliff said.. I'm not sure just how much you can keep an owner from tampering... And the bigger question is.. How much input Hue has in this... I really hope it's 0 input.. But I think we know Dorsey would be respectful to some degree and toss around opinions and ideas... Thursday can't get here fast enough!!
 
it's so interesting whats going on... Like Cliff said.. I'm not sure just how much you can keep an owner from tampering... And the bigger question is.. How much input Hue has in this... I really hope it's 0 input.. But I think we know Dorsey would be respectful to some degree and toss around opinions and ideas... Thursday can't get here fast enough!!

My guess is that the only tampering Jimmy Haslam will do is insist that a quarterback be taken #1 in the draft. I don't think he will choose the quarterback. I get the sense that he is capable of learning from his mistakes and this time he will expect the professionals to make the choice and he will then hold them accountable. Dorsey will listen to suggestions and the reasons behind those suggestions, but he is in total control and will make the final decisions on all draft choices--as he should.

I think Dorsey will choose Darnold and the Giants will follow with their actual favorite: Josh Rosen.
 
My guess is that the only tampering Jimmy Haslam will do is insist that a quarterback be taken #1 in the draft. I don't think he will choose the quarterback. I get the sense that he is capable of learning from his mistakes and this time he will expect the professionals to make the choice and he will then hold them accountable. Dorsey will listen to suggestions and the reasons behind those suggestions, but he is in total control and will make the final decisions on all draft choices--as he should.

I think Dorsey will choose Darnold and the Giants will follow with their actual favorite: Josh Rosen.

I pretty much agree.. I think it's between Darnold and Mayfiled...
 
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