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Apparently majority of Sanders completions have been check downs .... don't shoot the messenger.
Apparently majority of Sanders completions have been check downs .... don't shoot the messenger.
Browns Pick #144, Sheduer Sanders, QB, Colorado
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He's had some nice throws too though, and most of his situations have been redzone, so short passes are gonna happen.
I'd rather have these glowing rookie QB reports rather than those reports coming out on Dart.
Pickett had a great OTA last year at Eagles camp, reportedly better than Hurts, so, it's all bs.
Still, I'd rather have good QB rookie reports (Sanders and Gabriel), rather than bad ones with justification and excuses (Dart).
Sam Darnold has also had a rough spring, but he had NFL success to ease any concerns.
I'd rather have these glowing rookie QB reports rather than those reports coming out on Dart.
Pickett had a great OTA last year at Eagles camp, reportedly better than Hurts, so, it's all bs.
Still, I'd rather have good QB rookie reports (Sanders and Gabriel), rather than bad ones with justification and excuses (Dart).
Sam Darnold has also had a rough spring, but he had NFL success to ease any concerns.
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Jason Lloyd says Gabriel had the most check-downs, Flacco looked the best, Pickett missed some throws, and Shedeur "throws a great ball with obviously great touch". Just his feel and observations, as Lloyd (rightly) feels stats don't matter.
Lloyd and Jackson both say Sanders has looked better than Gabriel, and Lloyd points out "going against the starters means like going against 4 of the starters", as many aren't there for OTA's.
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You post like you want respect. that's a two way street, you need to respect others.
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However, Deion has also clarified that Shedeur hasn't expressed a preference for specific teams. In response to rumors suggesting Shedeur was only considering a select few teams, Deion refuted these claims, stating, "Please stop lying on us. Show me where Shedeur Sanders said what teams he desired to play for? Thatās something we donāt do" .si.com
Regarding Shedeur's involvement in NFL playbooks, there is no indication that he or Deion has claimed Shedeur would have a say in an NFL team's playbook. The focus has primarily been on ensuring Shedeur lands in an organization that supports his development and aligns with his career goals.si.com+1si.com+1
In summary, while Deion Sanders has expressed a protective stance over which NFL teams his son should join, there is no evidence to suggest that Shedeur would have input into a team's playbook decisions.si.com+3si.com+3fox59.com+3
You said:
Did Deon Sanders say he and sheduer would have say in nfl teams playbookChatGPT said:
Deion Sanders has publicly stated that he will not allow his son, Shedeur Sanders, to play for certain NFL teams if the situation isn't right. While he hasn't disclosed specific teams, Deion emphasized that his extensive experience in professional football gives him insight into which organizations may not be suitable for his son's career. He likened his protective approach to that of Archie Manning, who famously guided his son Eli Manning to avoid playing for the San Diego Chargers in 2004 .sportskeeda.com+6si.com+6si.com+6si.com+2sportskeeda.com+2si.com+2However, Deion has also clarified that Shedeur hasn't expressed a preference for specific teams. In response to rumors suggesting Shedeur was only considering a select few teams, Deion refuted these claims, stating, "Please stop lying on us. Show me where Shedeur Sanders said what teams he desired to play for? Thatās something we donāt do" .si.com
Regarding Shedeur's involvement in NFL playbooks, there is no indication that he or Deion has claimed Shedeur would have a say in an NFL team's playbook. The focus has primarily been on ensuring Shedeur lands in an organization that supports his development and aligns with his career goals.si.com+1si.com+1
In summary, while Deion Sanders has expressed a protective stance over which NFL teams his son should join, there is no evidence to suggest that Shedeur would have input into a team's playbook decisions.si.com+3si.com+3fox59.com+3
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Asked: "What has Deion and Shedeur done that is so bad and to justify the talk of "the circus is coming to Cleveland"?
Grok AI: "Deion and Shedeur havenāt done anything egregious to warrant the "circus" label; their primary "fault" is being high-profile figures in a media-hungry sports landscape. Deionās outspokenness and Shedeurās draft slide controversies have fueled speculation, but these are magnified by external narratives rather than concrete evidence of disruption in Cleveland. The "circus" talk is partly justified by the intense attention they attract but is largely overblown, with Shedeur showing early signs of professionalism and the Browns appearing equipped to handle the spotlight. As The Miz noted, this could be a "positive circus" if it translates to wins and fan engagement."
Grok AI: "Deion and Shedeur havenāt done anything egregious to warrant the "circus" label; their primary "fault" is being high-profile figures in a media-hungry sports landscape. Deionās outspokenness and Shedeurās draft slide controversies have fueled speculation, but these are magnified by external narratives rather than concrete evidence of disruption in Cleveland. The "circus" talk is partly justified by the intense attention they attract but is largely overblown, with Shedeur showing early signs of professionalism and the Browns appearing equipped to handle the spotlight. As The Miz noted, this could be a "positive circus" if it translates to wins and fan engagement."
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Deion acted like a clown pre-draft and Shedeur calling himself 'legendary' before the draft, including his remarks gave the nfl enough reason to give him a well-needed reality check.
If he really had gone top5 to us, his tone would be much different.
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To be fair, pretty sure he'd say similar about any of the QBs. Stef is a pro at coach speak cliches to the media.
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I won't disagree that Dion being Dion probably wasn't helpful.
The "Ledgendy" has been used by Shedeur since 2021. So that's just uninformed nonsense.
"Shedeur created his ā2Legendaryā brand in 2021 while in college featuring the ā2ā logo for his name, which can be seen on his hoodie in the video." Shedeur Sanders arrives at Browns facility in āLegendaryā casual fit.
I can almost completely assure you where he was ultimately drafted had little to do with Dion, his 3-4 year old "Ledgendy", or the somewhat questionable "unnamed" QB coaches interview process story. Sanders was drafted where he was based on the prospect NFL teams apparently see him as. His ceiling from the physical talent standpoint is low. He isn't "big", he isn't "mobile", and doesn't have a big arm. His tape, at least to NFL teams, didn't overwhelm evaluator's to offset the physical talent.
The idea of 32 NFL team's, who all want to win, is made up mega rich people who have that money by ultimately doing what's best for them/their business (add in how Sanders jersey sales are right now, that is not going to be a surprise to them), and all know the lack of supply to NFL starting QB demand were able to collude to teach a lesson to a QB prospects evaluated as a one worthy of being much higher is silly. If the evaluation said significantly higher draft prospect, he would have gone higher. Even with the supposed non-football "noise".
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He definitely isn't QB4 and behind the Oregon manlet, that's a guarantee.
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Seemed a little more spirited than usual, but of course in the grand scheme, youāre right about KS.
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So you believe All NFL teams have much superior draft information than we the public ?
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Itās gonna be interesting.
First (or early 2nd) round grades were by the evaluators with film-only access.
Mid draft grades were by the teams, who had film + interview + ācircus considerations/worriesā.
Wonder if the film will be the truth in the end, and the rest was just overthinking.
Weāll see.
Iām pulling for him of course as I think he has he has best shot at being the answer of the three 20-somethingās.
I never once bought the circus stuff. Manziel was a mess. Watson, also a mess. Mayfield had tape fleeing the police while drunk. Sanders has none of that. So what he has a brand (Legendary) and had a draft party. And a player with a HOF dad who makes a mild comment now and then shouldnāt trigger anyone after what this team has been through.
SS has done, and said, all the right things so far. Stays after practice, has yet to have a rookie down-day, and handles the media with ease.
First (or early 2nd) round grades were by the evaluators with film-only access.
Mid draft grades were by the teams, who had film + interview + ācircus considerations/worriesā.
Wonder if the film will be the truth in the end, and the rest was just overthinking.
Weāll see.
Iām pulling for him of course as I think he has he has best shot at being the answer of the three 20-somethingās.
I never once bought the circus stuff. Manziel was a mess. Watson, also a mess. Mayfield had tape fleeing the police while drunk. Sanders has none of that. So what he has a brand (Legendary) and had a draft party. And a player with a HOF dad who makes a mild comment now and then shouldnāt trigger anyone after what this team has been through.
SS has done, and said, all the right things so far. Stays after practice, has yet to have a rookie down-day, and handles the media with ease.
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Absolutely. Actual NFL teams have much more film, scouting,, interviews with players/coaches who have been around the prospect, have actually spoken to players, have legal background checks, etc.