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The Offensive Line

I rewatched the Cinci game, and I was impressed with Teller. I shit on him, HARD, for his performance against Pittsburgh. And I stand by that because he wasn't good. But one thing I love seeing in young players is them bouncing back from shit performances with strong performances. You're going to play poorly in the NFL, especially in the early stages, and an ability to not let that snowball is highly important.

Kudos to him. Perhaps there is hope for him yet. I'm looking forward to seeing how he and Lamm play against Arizona. I get the feeling that Lamm will get the nod to take over at RT, and perhaps they can stabilize some of the protection issues we've had.

That would be huge for us because I feel like Baker has often played like a quarterback who doesn't trust his protection - and rightfully so.
 
brownsdownunder said:
I rewatched the Cinci game, and I was impressed with Teller. I shit on him, HARD, for his performance against Pittsburgh. And I stand by that because he wasn't good. But one thing I love seeing in young players is them bouncing back from shit performances with strong performances. You're going to play poorly in the NFL, especially in the early stages, and an ability to not let that snowball is highly important.

Kudos to him. Perhaps there is hope for him yet. I'm looking forward to seeing how he and Lamm play against Arizona. I get the feeling that Lamm will get the nod to take over at RT, and perhaps they can stabilize some of the protection issues we've had.

That would be huge for us because I feel like Baker has often played like a quarterback who doesn't trust his protection - and rightfully so.
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i feel like that is the theme for the entire team. inconsistent and young one week good one week bad.

lamm played well but most struggle against chandler Jones and i bet whoever is the RT does struggle. it doesnt mean lamm isnt the guy for the future.
 
To be fair: Steelers game was a hiccup on Teller's build and the Bengals game wasn't like a first glimpse of goodness. Jake's been saying it since he became a starter, the unit seemed to start gelling at that point.

He seems like a very promising answer at RG, something we couldn't say before him.
 
Beast doing what so few of us do... and in a classy way. Kudos to the grownup in the room.

Glad Lamm's under contract next season. At worst, he's a swing tackle. At best, he gets stronger, seizes his opportunity, and wins the right-side job. Either one's good.

Trying to do less volume also lets us trade up to get the LT we need earlier in R1.
 
And remember that when building an offensive line money is better spent at Tackle than Guard. Meaning we've spent a good chunk on Tretter and Bitonio. The only other spot on the OLine to get a ton of money will be LT. The RT some and the RG even less so a rookie contract seems in order for the LT, if we don't manage a FA LT, and then we go fish around from there.
 
brownsdownunder said:
I rewatched the Cinci game, and I was impressed with Teller. I shit on him, HARD, for his performance against Pittsburgh. And I stand by that because he wasn't good. But one thing I love seeing in young players is them bouncing back from shit performances with strong performances. You're going to play poorly in the NFL, especially in the early stages, and an ability to not let that snowball is highly important.
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Football is just like life. You will get beat up and knocked down at some point. The ones who brush it off and get back in the game are the ones who move on to better things.
 
"It's not about falling down. You will. It's about getting up. I wear every bruise like a medal of honor... as long as I get up and skate."

- Some teenage Olympian who made me feel like a pussy
 
"Learned everything I know from the women in my life."

Head coach of Old Dominion basketball told me her best advice: "Do the hard thing first." I was able to tell her my paranoia allows for no other way.

But those are two of my favorite pieces of Dad advice. They're really good.

My actual Dad's best is pretty good, too: "You can't reach for anything with both hands on your ass."
 
Back in the day I'd say that to chicks on the first date!

Do the hard thing first! Everything goes really well after we cross that bridge. I mean after that who can resist a Quarter with cheese meal?
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Churchill had one like, 'Success is the ability to go from failure to failure with no less enthusiasm.'

One of the reasons I have faith in this team. They must be devastated after such expectations fell so far short. Instead of quitting, we've gone from 2-6 to 6-7 and are pushing hard to keep the season alive.

There isn't any quit in this team.
 
Coach always deserves credit in these situations, but I also think a great locker room environment is key.

Jaelen Strong recently criticised the Browns medical staff for apparently ignoring his medical issues and say the team practiced too hard, which deteriorated his condition and resulted in his release because his injury got progressively worse.

He did preface his comments by saying;

Cleveland was super lit and fun while it lasted no cap the locker room was like a big ass crib everybody vibing out like a brotherhood from day 1.
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That seems to be something that is obvious. Our guys in the locker room really like each other. Everyone seems to get on really well. Be it comments like this or episodes of Building the Browns, it seems clear that the team genuinely like one another and it's created a strong culture. We've had moments this year in which Ogunjobi, Landry and Mayfield have all confronted the team with accountability and responsibility, and they do seem to rally around one another.

I think that's been one of the biggest reasons for the continued fight. Guys all love one another and they're not going to quit on each other. Sure, Kitchens has a role, but I do think the playing group have fantastic chemistry.
 
brownsdownunder said:
There isn't any quit in this team.
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thats great
but its too late for that
Its fitting to quote chuchill at a time like this
and like churchill this disastrous season is being spun like a success (dunkirk?)
we have little to no hope of continuing the season
our only hope is to fight hard despite the odds
well,it worked out for churchill
but for the 2019 browns?
not so much
 
Disastrous season being spun in to success? We just went 1-15. Told ourselves it couldn't get worse, then went 0-16. We have consistently gone 5-11 or 4-12 or some shit for the last twenty years. Never bad enough to get the top talent, but always bad enough to keep us mediocre.

We've got the longest list of coaches, general managers and quarterbacks in the league - by far - during that time,

Now all of a sudden, we're a disaster despite having a real chance to find ourselves 7-7 in a few days?

Forgive me for not constantly complaining about doubling our typical win total. I wanted to go 10-6, 11-5, 12-4 or 13-3 too. I was as hopeful as anyone. But I'm not going to pretend that this team having one of the better seasons of my lifetime (I am nearly 29) is suddenly a disaster because the rebuilding process is a process that wasn't utterly immediate.

There is no fucking way we became so expectant, so soon. We've had how many seasons ranked 28th or worse on both sides of the ball? No matter how many people want to pretend it isn't, this is what progress looks like.

And the season ain't over yet. Can't show up for a funeral for someone who is alive. Well, you can, but it's going to be awkward.
 
We win, Buffalo beats Pittsburgh, and someone loses the game between Titans and Texans. I feel good about all three.

Then the Browns are 7-7 and trail the Steelers and (say) Texans at 8-6. We need to win two while those teams lose at each one. That's it. That's the whole scenario. I think. I recall DF doing the tiebreakers and we win all the three-way ties, just can't end up in a head to head with the Titans.

That's not complicated so it's too early to say it's too late. Unless you just like giving up before the fact, which is a sad way to live.

I love, love, love that Churchill quote. You really can't survive Hollywood without seeing failures as stairsteps to success, part of the process. There really are no "failures."
 
Thought the Cards game was a fairly meh to mediocre one for Teller (four pressures, one QB hit).

It kinda put into question the cred he gets as a stabilizing pass blocker: we already knew from the Javon Hargrave matchup that explosive plugger types give him fits; the way AZ attacked him with standup rushers felt new & something teams will continue to exploit.

I imagine a coaching staff already on the ropes will be reluctant to make any changes, but I'd like to get a small sampling of what Forbes can do at that spot...maybe in the finale?

Either way, bringing in some vet competition in the offseason would be a good move & shouldn't be too costly: the dude who took Teller's job in Buffalo, Quinton Spain, makes about as much as Kush.
 
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