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It's time to turn the page and begin the hunt for a new QB. #Browns

Sorry player fans. It's time. Baker Mayfield is an average NFL QB, a future journeyman ...and it's time to look at our options. There are only two QBs in the NFL worse than Baker Mayfield in the 4th quarter. We routinely finish in the bottom half in almost every meaningful passing category. There is nothing at all special about him. I used to think he had an elite arm, but a lot of QBs can throw the ball hard. He can certainly throw it, but how well does he pass it really? High, hard, and behind. Rinse and repeat. A large percentage of his completions go that route as well. He has every single weakness he had coming out of college. Nothing at all has improved. In the NFL he isn't chucking up prayers to NFL caliber WRs being covered by guys who are now checking out your groceries. Baker Mayfield is the 4th best QB in the AFC North. Out of 4 teams.



Last place in the division. Most in here predicted outlandish success this season. 12 wins? 14? Maybe more. This blow-hard thought we would likely have less wins than last season, simply due to a historically easy schedule in 2020. The Browns just lost to a team with no kicker, and a fat QB who likely has lower back problems, and runs about as fast as an arthritic sloth. People are now starting to look for new excuses. The new coach is holding the team back. The WRs drop the ball too much. Mean fans are hurting Emily Mayfield's feelings and it's having an effect on Baker's play. The truth is, there's a bottleneck at the QB position. We have a Superbowl caliber roster, and a QB that is limiting what we can do with it. Baker Mayfield is the best QB we have had in twenty years ....and people are desperate to defend him. I get it.



Against the Steelers on Sunday we witnessed something we try really hard to ignore. Baker throwing high and hard the majority of the game. While throwing from the pocket, Baker not only can't see most of the field, but he throws his trademark bullets high enough to get over the defenders standing between he and his receiver. This just doesn't work, as the trajectory of these bullets leave them high and often behind his mark. A difficult ask of WRs, TEs, and RBs. You'll have player fans on twitter showing slow motion replays of a ball going through Hooper's hand, and calling anyone who dares criticize Baker a "mouth breather", but in reality Hooper was at the top of his jump, arms outstretched to the max, trying to reel in a high, hard, and behind football. Could have easily been a walk in touchdown instead... a bad pass. A QB could normally avoid this by putting some touch on the ball, a little arc, or air under it ....but Baker doesn't seem to have that gear.

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Mayfield throughout his entire career has made a cottage industry of rolling to his right. It seems to be the one thing he is great at. The problem is, when you are a one-trick pony, other teams game-plan to take that trick away from you. Baker has rolled right and attempted to pass a total of 6 times this year. Think about that in relation to each year prior. Teams have forced Baker into the pocket, the Steelers literally dared the Browns to pass practically the entire game. How is it working out?

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Fourth quarter, and another chance to win a game. Most of us knew what was going to happen didn't we? We have held onto hope, praying that the light would go on, that Baker would make wholesale changes, and he would become the Browns franchise QB ...someone we could count on to put the team on his back and lead us to victory with the game on the line. What we have got in reality is a QB that is 33 of 62, with 4 TDs and 5 INTS. Sam Darnold is the only QB as bad as Mayfield with the game on the line since 2018. Mayfield's passing rating with the game on the line is 61.3 and the Browns are 3-11 in these scenarios.

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Kevin Stefanski was hired to reign in Mayfield's erratic tendencies. Stefanski's offense tends to turn average QBs into statistical wonders, (Case Keenum) and perhaps limit some players at certain positions, like a downfield QB and burner WR for example. Some argue that Stefanski has taken Mayfield's gunslinger aura away from him, which while true is also the reason why Baker has become far less prone to interceptions. The dink and dunk offense with numerous screens and TE heavy route trees certainly makes a QB look good on paper at times ...but who is Baker Mayfield without the ability to roll out on play action and plant bombs down the field? Certainly these are often 50/50 bombs, but they do add to what an opposing defense has to worry about. Mayfield has 10 completions of 20 or more yards this season ...20th in the league. Recall Stefon Diggs having the same issue that OBJ is currently having in the Stefanski offense. He moved on to the Bills and is back to all-pro form. I suspect OBJ will do the same for some other team.

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In short, we have no vertical passing attack, while employing one of the very best WR tandems in the game, and one of the fastest WRs in the league in Schwartz. Did the Browns hire the right coach? If you believe analytics and going by the book is usually right, then yes. If you believe in coaches who base decisions on the ebb and flow of the game, their "gut" as it were, then no. We are the worst team in the league at going for it on 4th down. Analytics got us there.

We could have had Canton native and lifelong Browns fan Josh McDaniels.

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So where are we now? A Superbowl caliber roster, with an extremely limited QB, and a coach who can only go by the book, apparently not capable of harnessing whatever "elite" trait Mayfield may have, if he has one at all. Playoffs this season ...not likely. Our Superbowl window is open for only a short while ...without the Browns front office doing something extremely out of character (see, ballsy) like going after a Watson, Wilson, or Rogers ...I don't see us going anywhere.

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(yes another QB thread)
 
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YIKES! we need baker. I certainty dont want him walking..
But you can't knock a woman for loving and supporting her man.. Although she couldve chose smarter words
she didnt have to make out hes tougher than the rest of his team mates.little white baker is surrounded by 6'5" ft destroyers.
try being baker in that locker now? AWKWARD! LOL Is she trying to get ma man killed?!?
she shoulda/coulda praised baker.thats cool. but no she went too far as pampered millennial girls want to do.
But you know how these young people are today... Too EMO for their own good...
goddamn millennials! so spoilt and soft. I just hope china doesnt want a war or were all fu&ked.

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This is why you don't listen to the outside noise and focus on the task at hand.. Yeah.. His ol'lady should shut it.. Agreed.. But you can't knock a woman for loving and supporting her man.. Although she couldve chose smarter words.. or been better off saying nothing... But you know how these young people are today... Too EMO for their own good...
Or forgive a father for posting a several week old video showing his son is getting open.....
 
The post she SHARED was written by some one else.
The optics aren't great but still... she didn't write it.
If I had the injuries that Baker has I'd probably be soaking in the whirlpool after the game instead of yacking to the press.
 
Agreeing with some goof that Baker is tougher than his teammates and regurgitating it is dumb. Apparently not the first time she went to social media to defend her husband.

She should be defending his contract by not adding more distraction to an already distracted topic. I hope he/they figure it out before it becomes to far gone.

Baker can be the guy but declining pressers and the wife running her mouth is not helping.
 
Why does anyone give a rats ass about Baker's wife's social media? It seems like Cowherd just wants more clicks like Skip Bayless, Mark May and the rest of the has beens and Hay is on his payroll. Anyone's opinion is as good as his and I'm guessing he's doing the same trick he's been doing since Baker punked his ass years ago.



..."Let's not forget the whole McCown family!..." Rich Eisen :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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and Hay is on his payroll.
well,wheres my mutha fu&king money? no I dont like cowherd one bit.hate him.but he speaks the truth here for once.
It would take courage to stand up and face the media and praise his team mates for the victory. you stand in the pocket man.
Why does anyone give a rats ass about Baker's wife's social media?
because ah..reality of life in the 20's.
 
..."Let's not forget the whole McCown family!..." Rich Eisen :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I agree with everything rich says here
I wasn't booing in cleveland and I dont like it that it happened but it happened and Its going to keep happening.
unless baker grabs his balls and starts playing browns football or he sits
rich is assuming every fan that booed wants baker to leave which prolly isn't true either

 
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well,wheres my mutha fu&king money? no I dont like cowherd one bit.hate him.but he speaks the truth here for once.
It would take courage to stand up and face the media and praise his team mates for the victory. you stand in the pocket man.

because ah..reality of life in the 20's.
Life is what you make of it. Not anyone else can change it unless you allow them to.

That's reality since the beginning of time and will never change even if you and others consume those types of distractions.
 
even if you and others consume those types of distractions.
ah..you mean the internet? yeah Its consumed by everybody J, Its the latest fad you should check it out.you seem stuck in 1989?
I hear the niners would like back to back SB's this year!

there goes the contract..



you just know somewhere OBJ is laughing his ass off right now..
 
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ah..you mean the internet? yeah Its consumed by everybody J, Its the latest fad you should check it out.you seem stuck in 1989?
I hear the niners would like back to back SB's this year!

there goes the contract..



you just know somewhere OBJ is laughing his ass off right now..

I meant that it's hard to focus when you get distracted by BS. But I see you're distracted by it so carry on.

 
I think he posted a YouTube highlight video of his now 29 year old son with the intent to get him off the team.
Same crap as Mayfield's wife. Posting someone else's comment/content which speaks poorly of others. For OBJ dad it's a video someone else made and posted weeks prior showing how open his kid is (we can only speculate on the intent). Baker's wife posts a fan made comment about toughness of Baker and how the other players need to be as tough (we can only speculate on the intent). Yet one gets some fans upset while the other doesn't.
 
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