Ben is a trash frat boy who treated women like his personal cum dumpsters, sometimes right in front of their boyfriends.. I know of his past transgressions in nightclubs and on the bar scene. He was quite well known for his antics.
That being said he cleaned up, got married, and had kids. Redemption is a thing.
Same with Jim. Crap human, amazing ball player. We could only imagine the women he ran through.
Honestly though, defending Steelers players in a Browns forum feels dirty.
Yes, I do believe many Browns fans believe just that. It's super annoying.
Well, here is the thing for me, I love the Browns, always have and always will. However, being a fan does not transcend the way I look at others or live my life. The Jim Brown reference simply made the point that people are human, they make mistakes and clean up.
However, I also believe this. In the absence of being able to celebrate great accomplishments Browns fans deprecate themselves by resorting to personal attacks. A man's vocational accomplishments in life stand alone, they are separate from his personal life.
Pete Rose not in the HOF? Ridiculous.
Bro, by the standards of BH, this is a medium, and a wonderful one at that, to talk about football. Posting a disgusting article full of accusations of a man simply to deter from the fact that the guy not only had a stellar career, but the real rape he committed is that he fucked the Cleveland Browns every chance he had. Even as an old man the fucker pissed on our team.
I have neither hate nor love for the Steelers. That I have many friends who live in that area and love the team means what? That I should spew venom for them and their team? If that is what people believe constitutes being a Browns fan, the the whole lot of Browns fanship is perverted.
I want the Browns to win. While it may seem dirty to use fight fire with fire by bringing up Jim, to any intelligent person it illustrates my point succinctly. It is fucked up to judge someone by standards that we are also guilty of violating.
Here is the thing that never ceases to impress me, in the worst of ways. Anytime someone posts a thought that upsets, the response IMMEDIATELY becomes an attack on the poster, and the point of the thread is totally abandoned. Me, and views about Steeler issues is in particularly a prime example. " Oh, he's Ghoolie", Oh you don't know the complete story of Ghoolie".... Jesus Christ, just talk football. What the hell difference does it make who ANYONE is? When I read something that I think is bullshit, I don't go doing research on the person posting it. Bro, this cancel culture shit is REALLY what is fucked up.
I didn't come here to upset people, but some people just think they have a right not to hear anything they don't like. I understand being a homer. I do. However, when you spend time posting that a team sucks, that player suck that an organization sucks, and that entity is 25 - 3 - 1 against you.....ah, er.....that's about as self-deprecating as it gets.
Our character is never more on display than in defeat.
So, enough of this shit, lets talk about week 18 and what is to come.